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What can feminists and men say about this article on wikipedia?

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[edit] Media portrayal

Another issue of concern is the perceived anti-male bias in the media. Men's rights activists claim that men are portrayed unfairly on television, radio and in newspapers and magazines. They claim that not only does the media not pay serious attention to men's rights issues but that men are portrayed in a negative light, particularly in advertising.[10] The lack of concern over men's issues such as higher rates of suicide by men, decline in academic achievement among boys, and a willingness of the press to print feminist statistics such as the "wage gap" has led to the term "Lace Curtain" being used. The term was coined by MRA Warren Farrell.

[edit] Politics and law

In South Australian Parliament, one MP stated "tongue-in-cheek" that men would need signed consent from women to protect themselves from false rape allegations, should a proposed law come into effect. She described the proposed law as making men who are accused of rape guilty until proven innocent, and stated, "Having to have a consensual s*x contract is ridiculous but having these laws that don't protect men's rights are also ridiculous."[11]

[edit] Refugees

In Australian immigration policy a distinction is regularly made between women and children (often treated erroneously as equivalent to "family groups") and single men. The details are subject to current debate and recently failed legislation (August 2006) in the Australian Parliament. But for example in one recent case, the Minister for Immigration, Senator Amanda Vanstone, determined as follows concerning Papuan asylum seekers: "The single men on the boat would be sent to an immigration detention centre, but families would not be split up and would be housed in facilities in the community".[12] The discriminatory treatment of single women (routinely assumed to be members of some family) and single men evident in such a practice is rarely examined in the Australian media.[citation needed]

[edit] Social security and retirement

In some societies there is legislated discrimination against males in provision of social security. In Australia, for example, a woman over 50 years of age may obtain a Widow Allowance[13] approximately equal to a pension if, after turning 40, she becomes widowed, divorced, or merely separated from a spouse (who may be a de facto spouse). She must have "no recent workforce experience", but she can easily qualify for this well after the loss of her partner by going through a period of underemployment. There is no similar allowance for men. In Australia and the UK[14], some of these discriminatory arrangements (including also women's earlier qualification for Age Pension, etc.) are being legally phased out. The policy of "age 65 for men, age 60 for women" remains in place in most Western countries, however

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  1. It's wikipeida. It's one persons account and they are geeky enough to get onto wikipedia.


  2. I haven't the faintest idea what you're on about.

  3. lifes a ****** ain't it?

  4. That is pretty sexist.

    Feminists will tell you not to trust Wiki when it suits them. There is a section called 'feminist theory' in Wikipedia's 'feminism' article. That's the bit nobody should believe.

  5. I have to compliment you for your awareness on this issue and your references!

    We are sadly trying to reform one evil which is suppression of women by enforcing another evil and that ultimately will not work.

    Nature takes its won course therfore one or the other day this will come to pass.

  6. In cases like many of the above where men have a legitamate problem I sympathise and would like to change things. However, just because they have some problems does not mean women or other social groups don;t have *more* problems. However unfair and needing of reform these situations are, white males are still NOT the most discriminated group in the USA or most European countries. Not even close. And that's what some people try to claim, based on these sources.

  7. Wikipedia is highlighting the plight of men, but only barely.

    The simple fact, is that feminist power is founded on the principle that men are bad, and thus (without saying it) women are good. Feminists are terrified of true equality because they know women will abandon feminism quickly.

  8. The silence here is deafening.  Feminists will not respond to these articles which illustrate a clear bias in society against males.

  9. I consider myself a feminist and don't believe that treating men in a way which debases them (this is particularly noticeably in television adverts) is anything which should be commended.  As for Social Security and other benefits - the rules were made many years ago and most women didn't work and  this offered some protection.  Do remember that even today, if a woman in the UK paid the smaller NI contributions (and they were encouraged to do so) she will get no pension in her own right but will have to rely on her husband's when he reaches 65.   Similarly, when  women left work to have a baby they were actively encouraged to take their NI contributions as a lump sum (when it was most needed) and thousands did this. I worked with nurses and midwives who were having to work on as their pensions had been slashed by this decision.  And all of them felt their had been no real explanation of the consequences. I agree that in rape case no names should be given out until someone is proven guilty - I know this wrecks lives.  No thinking woman wants men to go through the kind of stereotyping we endured for years.  That's not the answer.  It's still a man's world though, regardless of your examples.  Just look at the make-up of parliament or the Boards of any company.

  10. I hope those things aren't true, and how awful if they are. I thought Australia was more progressive than that. =I Thanks for bringing those issues up, they are definitely unfair and they each deserve individual attention.

  11. That seems to be true - and surprising. Surprising as wikipaedia is generally regarded as being very pro-feminist (just look up the mountain of drivel under the 'feminism' heading.)

  12. I would have to say ~ don't believe everything you read on Wikipedia!

    Cheers :-)

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