What degree black belt do you have to be for your hands to be considered lethal weapons?

Question

Specifically in Jiu Jitsu.

Answer 1

The scary thing is that in most, if not all jurisdictions, you don't have to register your hands as lethal weapons. I was lucky enough to recognize some guys I saw on the Ultimate Fighter at a local bar in the city where I live. I kept my distance from them and I feel sorry for any guy who unknowingly gets into a fight with one of  them. I think these guys should have to be 'registered weapons' since they have such a great advantage over anybody they choose to fight. MMA is serious business. These guys can beat any non-MMA person to a pulp.  

Answer 2

None that myth is older than dirt and if an instructor talks about processing fees with a blackbelt and if one of said fees happens to be registering your hands with the police department he is ripping you off.

That one's been going around since the `60s and was basically a marketing pitch for some guys' school.

Answer 3

I'm pretty sure that you're new to martial arts... experienced athletes know this.

It's not your belt level; it's the techniques that you know.  It's possible that they would teach you less lethal techniques at a lower belt level; ask your instructor how much damage you are inflicting with a certain moves.  I don't think you can actually register your hands as lethal weapons... but there ARE lethal moves  (by the way, you can use your feet, knees, and elbows, too) that you can use in a situation where it's vital that you incapacitate the other person.  

Answer 4

i believe its the first degree

Answer 5

when you reach "edward scisorhands" belt.

Answer 6

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

Some people part of a group of people who either buy into the mythos of Martial Arts, (also prove themselves as not having any rank) about something this is so patently untrue it is laughable.

It is a myth, a lie.

You don't have to register yourself as a lethal weapon no matter what you study. Nor do Professional Boxers have to register their hands as lethal weapons.

And trust me, there is no way anyone would consider a yellow belt in TKD a lethal weapon (or the large percentage of black belts that are walking around).

While there is some validity to your training coming up, that is more likely if you were to attack someone, be charged for a crime, and they got into your background.

If you defend yourself, provided you didn't curb stomp your would be attacker, chances are the cops won't ask your background.

The only time your Martial Arts background may come into any sort of relevance is if you actually have to go to court to defend your actions, (which means you more than likely went over the line, or you killed someone).

Even that is only to help discuss intent (i.e. were you aware that doing what you are did was going to cause the outcome). Not because there is any law for more scrutiny, or stiffer sentences on Martial Artist, just tougher penalities on intent. Meaning you knew, and utilized a technique to cause him excess bodily harm. Versus you were fighting for fear of your life, and aren't exactly sure what happened to him.

I challenge any single poster that says you have to register as a deadly weapon, or to find any Martial Art related laws in any state, federal, or local law, just one actual law.

Or find a law that says in a self defense, or hand to hand situation, that your will be viewed differently in the eyes of the court.

There isn't any actual laws to this, but yes in the jury of your peers if you have a black eye, and your opponent is in a wheelchair, and you were foolish enough to state that you knew what you doing was going to put him there... with then you will be dealt with differently, not because you are a Martial Artist, but because you knowingly, and willingly went past the line of using the least force necessary to stop the threat.

Anyway, enough of my book. In short, no you don't have to register, and in most cases you Martial Arts background will have no relevance provided you actually follow the law.

Answer 7

as soon as you get your black belt. i got mine when i was 17, i also had to sign a contract with LAPD stating that my hands are lethal weapons

Answer 8

First off ask any real martial arts master and they will tell you that your hands will never be considered lethal weapons thats a myth. Secondly jiujitsu is a grappling art so there is very little to no striking so  your hands wouldn't even be considered lethal anyway, your body will.

Answer 9

4th degree or senior master

take 20 yrs to earn this rank

Answer 10

when they are grasping a knife, gun or other lethal weapon...then maybe