What do Christians think about science's quest for the "God particle"?

Question

To catch you up to speed. There is an international science front trying to reconstruct the big bang. To search for the right combination of elements that could spawn the universe as we know it to be. A hyper dense molecule, dubbed the "God particle"

You can read the whole story here, I was just curious about thoughts on this from the religious mind.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/god_particle

Answer 1

God created every thing.

Answer 2

Well that's just it, the "God particle" IS God because there IS a God, and anyone who wants to can find Him but they aren't gonna find Him in science books or research or machines, He doesn't fit in the boxes humans try to put Him in. All they have to do is start going after Him personally because they want to know Him and He'll respond.

Answer 3

They can call it whatever they want, but that doesn't make it God, nor does it preclude God's existence.

God created this MEST universe (MEST = Matter, Energy, Space and Time), and as such, is not part of the very universe He created.  God transcends both space and time, and does not consist of matter or energy.  (Jesus said, "God is Spirit.")

So, whatever they find, that, too, was created by God.

The point is, since God is not part of this MEST (i.e. material) universe, the physics that explains this universe can not explain God; furthermore, the methods used to test and measure this MEST universe can not possibly be used to test or measure God.

God said "If you seek for me, then you shall find me, if you search for me with all your heart (with an honest and humble heart), and I will be found of you, says the Lord."

God said He would reveal Himself to the humble heart, but He also said that He would hide Himself from the proud, the arrogant, the mocker, the skeptic, and the scoffer alike.

If you don't even bother seeking God, you can not say God doesn't exist.

If, however, you DO seek God but you don't find Him, to know WHY you can't find Him, you need look no farther than your own heart for answers.

The ball is now in your court.

Answer 4

I'll be interested when the search is concluded. ;-)

If you christians don't pipe down you'll make me go into 2.00 jihad mode and start trolling you

Answer 5

As a physicist, the quest for the Higgs boson is no more than a mathematical extrapolation of observed behavior of already discovered particles.    To dub the Higgs boson the "God" particle is sensationalism.   Sensationalism aimed at get funding from governments.  Asking for $10 billion dollars "to build a Large Hadron Collider to search for "Higg's particle" would be poor marketing.

As a Christian, Moses had given us the Big Bang Theory some 3400 years ago.  "Let There Be Light."    A statement that everything started with energy, and immediately after, became matter (following E = mc^2).    Scientists do not say everything began with energy yet.  Scientists are now working back to the Higgs particle.  Before the Higgs, the logic assumption is, is that everything started with just "light."      So you can still say that Moses is one up on modern physics.

BTW, out of all the religions in the world, only Moses seems to have nailed how the universe began . . . as if Moses got his information from . . . .

Answer 6

Atheist here, and you're wrong in your explanation.

What they will do is crash 2 atoms together in a large particle accelerator to produce an expansion of sub-atomic particles that could give them an idea of how things work in the subatomic level.

Answer 7

I think it's ridiculous, they will never be able to come up with it, as God created everything, He cannot be created!

Answer 8

I say "good luck", and I don't mean it sarcastically.  

Answer 9

I think it's good for them to keep investigating.  They might just come to realize that the Universe is the product of design, the design of an Intelligent Mind.

One thing for sure, man did not create the universe.  And Whoever did was awesome!!!

Answer 10

God is the Creator

Answer 11

As a Christain for over 38 yrs, I will not argue the point of a big bang, & I won't argue that there was no big bang, But My question to you is this, WHO CREATED THE BIG BANG? God did. & the more science tries to disprove God, the bigger they dig their own grave & stick there foot in there own mouth, because you see, I also watch these TV programs about creation, the big bang, & evolution, & just about when you think science will say something at the end of the program, they come up with an answer, we don't really know.

Answer 12

when it is discovered i will be proven right

we create our reality

i jsut belive that god created this world

and that scientist will be god for the next batch

of organisims

in his universe

and something will stand and doubt his existance

and discover that universes can be created

and he will be god of his own batch

funny how that **** Works eh!

Answer 13

If all things need a creator and if god created the earth then by xians warped logic god needs a creator and hence can not be god.

As for the LHC experiment, calling it the god particle is simply a convenient easy way to try to explain to the home-schooled amongst us what they are trying to do.  Sadly most home-schoolers struggle to spell their own names and so really have no hope of understanding super-string theory.

Answer 14

It sounds like a "tower of Babel" project to me.

Just to catch you up to speed.  Read the book of Genesis.  You can read the whole story there.

Answer 15

I have been reading about The Hadron Collider for several years.

I am all for knowledge and learning and some of the information from particle accelerator research is interesting and might one day actually help produce something that will help the planet.  But for the most part at least at today’s level of tech they seem more like expensive “scientists toys”.  They produce interesting results and do give some knowledge to how the universe works.  But is it really that useful of information that we can realistically do anything with?  

With the economic issues around the world.  I’m just not sure that the money spent to build this 100 meter deep (on average) 27-kilometer long tunnel, plus all the equipment, plus the man power, plus the annual operating expenses (and all the other expenses) couldn’t have been put to better use.   On something like …  oh I don’t know … building schools and training instructors in countries that cannot afford them.  Helping poor countries grow more and better food to become self-sufficient.   Better medical care.  Etc., Etc., etc.



As for the name of the particle, I would have personally used a little "g".  However, it is an appropriate name since this thing/project does seem to be the "god" of so many people.  

‘Tis a sad world when such things are treated with more care and respect than we treat each other or the planet we live on.

May Our Creator watch over you and your family.

Answer 16

Another feather in Science's discovery cap.

Answer 17

Hello,

Great question. I find it interesting about the whole God particle, as I do about any other scientific discoveries.

I think science is one of the greatest tools we have. It is a way we can understand the life we live in. It tells us how things happen, and gives us a deeper understanding of many things. It has helped lead to cures, inventions, and so many other things that have given the human race a higher quality of life.

I also think that any religion without science is foolish. At the same time, I also think that any science without God is also foolish. I am not in any way trying to offend anyone here.

But the thing we all have to keep in mind is that none of us were here when the world came into existence. All we have are the scriptures and science. I believe God created the world, as Genesis explains. It is probably more detailed I am sure, but the point of Genesis is to give the basics of it. I am sure God used many scientific particles & laws during creation.

I personally believe in God's design, He created everything through the laws of science which He defined. As far as evolution, I think God's design allows for changes (which is why we have different breeds of dogs, etc). However, I don't believe life slowly evolved from nothing. I think he pulled everything from the "dust" of the earth (meaning matter)--all atoms, protons, minerals, etc. to create man. He did this in a short time period, and not over millions of years. We have to keep in mind if God could even create anything in the first place, who is to say He couldn't create man instantly. Especially if He created this huge universe in all its vastness.

The part I disagree with about evolution or "God particles" is that it started life. I think that life is far too complex for evolution to have started it. If that is the case, then why aren't there other planets with life forms? Sure there may be in a galaxy far far away, but lets be honest--we have no real proof of that, especially in our own galaxy. There certainly aren't any plants or animals or complex life forms on our own planets. And if evolution is so efficient that it could have started life in the first place, couldn't it find away around the environment on other planets?

And I view genetics like a computer program. All genetics really are made of matter (atoms, etc) in complex arrangements, and that coding makes the matter mean something.

Just like a computer program. Computers are really just 1's and 0's. Computers can never really do anything...that is unless someone creates programs to manipulate and arrange those 1's and 0's to mean something. Software developers develop coding that manipulate this and makes it relevant. They take the "matter" of a computer, and make it come "alive."

The same thing with life. Who designed the code? The particles are arranged in a pattern, to make them mean something and perform specific functions. Who stated the what the scientific laws would be? Who said an atom should have this many electrons in it's outer shell? And even more importantly...WHY?  I think it was all God.

Back to the God particle. I don't believe there ever will be any piece of evidence that says "This is how life began." Simply because it can never be proved because we weren't there. Just like a murderer can never be totally proven if no one witnessed it, just more than a reasonable doubt based on evidence. That is the best it can ever get. Only the murderer and the person he/she murdered will know for sure (and God).

At the end of the day, I can't prove God exists, and the non-religious person can't prove that evolution started everything, or that the big bang happened by itself.

We all have to have faith (or belief without total evidence) to a certain degree, and look at all the evidence & take a stand at some point and say to ourselfe, "Okay, I can't know every detail, so either I will choose God or reject that type of a belief". That is why I believe in God, and why any piece of evidence will never be able to 100% prove anything in either way (that God exists or Evolution started it, etc) until God does actually prove otherwise.

Great question and interesting article, makes you think. I hope you have a great day!

Answer 18

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. By contrast, a skunk cabbage dubbed a rose will still reek.

Doesn't matter what they call it, doesn't matter if they find it, it isn't God and nothing will change THAT!

Answer 19

To call it the God particle seems to be misleading as in other parts of the universe the hyper dense 'particle' thingy might have a number of very different uses other than spawning lots of energy and mass into space... somethings much less significant...