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What do you think of the so-called male feminists?

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Good thing or creepy?

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  1. My dad was more of a feminist than my mom, even though he would never call himself one.  He's quite old now and the word is not part of his vocabulary, just as he has no idea how to turn on a computer.  

    He was always the one who said, "Oh never mind your mother, if you want to be a doctor you can.  You're plenty smart enough!"  while my mother would talk about being a medical or legal secretary or a dental hygienist instead of a dentist because those where "women's" jobs.

    My dad wanted me to have every opportunity to do whatever I wanted.  He was never pushy or loud but it was what he believed was right.  So doesn't that mean he had some feminist views?  

    Either way I think it's a good thing when men perceive women as equals.  Different of course but equal.


  2. They get a lot more action than our little woman haters on here, something for which the male feminists will never be forgiven.

    Luckily, they don't really notice or care what misogynists think of them.

  3. Depends on your definition of feminism;

    likely either progressive, self-hating, and/or pandering.

  4. It only becomes creepy if they become feminists that hate males.

  5. Has nobody noticed yet that men and women are different?

    What we each and all should strive for is being the best of whatever we consider ourselves to be.

    Idiosyncrasies apart, we all have a role to play in the group/family/society to which we consider ourselves to belong.

    But girls I would be wary of guys who seek to be with it or popular.

  6. male femenists are g*y.

  7. Just a little odd, do they try to suck up to the female ones? Usually insecure people do that.

  8. I think of them as I do many other things, with concern.

    I also ponder if they do it to get women to be honest.

    I know a few that do, and will never admit to it infront of anyone

    that hasnt proven that they would speak about it.

    O and nic - your father is an equalist. Someone that believes in equality and equal rights is an equalist. Someone that believes in equal rights for women alone is a feminist - thats why the only rights and legislations they push for favour women. And that is why the group is considered to polarised to be capable of being favour of true equality.

  9. Good thing.  My husband identifies as a feminist. In practical terms, it means that he tries not to assume too much about people based on their gender.  It means there's one less source of conflict in our relationship.

  10. Most male feminists I know are great.

  11. Creepy

  12. I think it's a good thing as long as they're serious about it. For instance, my mom's (male) friend went to a group for male feminism, and as a getting-to-know-each-other thing they were asked to name a role model they were ashamed of having (or something like that) and almost every guy said "Mick Jagger." Not a very feminist person...

  13. I think they are creepy and whimpy. And my husband is not a feminist nor does he think I'm stupid or worthless. Actually quite the opposite but he does not want our kids in day cares centers when he is perfectly capable of producing money. Any man that is not willing to let his wife stay at home and act like a "feminist" is a jerk in my opinion. And I have yet to meet a male feminist that wasn't vile and hateful towards women that want to stay at home and take care of her family.

  14. There is nothing creepy about men who consider women their equals and want to work to eliminate the conditions (such as lower wages for women and domestic violence) which perpetuate women's oppression.

    I would consider these men to be feminist allies/pro-feminist men though, not feminists.

  15. If being a 'rebel' is always good - as it seems to be among the really hot music acts -  then saying. "I'm not like everybody else," draws a certain amount of group-think attention.  Darwin would be proud, but there is a high body count in the animal world.

    Beware of men in dresses, unless they are psychologically turned that way and are real.  Question those who question authority.  Think for youself as you're doing now.

    There are men (and women) who are are not any kind of "ist" who will always advance justice on the ground - where it does the most good.  the movements leave many dead and wounded, and then the leaders move on to  other 'causes' and interests.  this is not to say that honest people do not work in feminism, but we know there is a down side and to ignore that is to advance mob thought.

        

    There are real rebels, like Dietrich Bonhoeffer, but they don't  demonstrate from personal advancement.  Ask your male feminist a question - one which involves an obvious injustice to a group 'enemy' - and see whether or not justice carries much weight.  That's hardly even a fair question anymore though.     Luck  --  Jerry

  16. Great in the 60s 70s and 80s. No man in his right mind would support what feminism has become.

    EDIT, sorry I'll answer the question.......    they seem creepy to me.

  17. Good thing. Why would it be creepy? You can fight for race equality without being an ethnic minority.

  18. I regard them with deep suspicion.  There is something decidedly  weird to my mind about a male feminist.

  19. Respect for standing up to something they believe in despite negative comments.

  20. are you talking from an academic background?

    i consider myself a feminist - my ideals concentrate on getting women the right to stay at home and look after children in their most important role, bringing the notion of the family and home to the top of importance compared to the 'public' domain of business.

    i'm hardly a bra burning leftie

  21. I've never actually met a guy who describes himself as a feminist - more feminist sympathisers. If men call themselves feminists outright, I think they are in danger of assuming to be an authority on something that is genuinely felt by women, but they only understand through theory. In other words - how can they know what drives a feminist if they aren't a woman?

    I do love men who are anti-sexist and pro-feminist. We need more of them. And they certainly aren't wimps - just men who are genuinely intelligent and realise that there is a massive injustice in the world and they should be part of the solution not the problem. Take Jackson Katz:

    http://www.jacksonkatz.com/

    There's nothing wimpy about him - it takes massive courage to challenge other men about their behaviour.

    I'm not into men pretending to be feminist because they think they can get laid though...

  22. I think it's a great thing. They support equality for all regardless of gender and they are against the oppression of women.

  23. They best men are feminists.  Why would you want to be with a man who thought you were weak and stupid?

  24. they are suck ups, i mean how do they really know anyway. obviously i am a man and i dont believe in belittling anyone male or female but these guys are twats.

  25. Some of them are obviously trolls, like the ones who talk about how much they worship women. But the others (the ones who point out unfairness to women without being preachy) are great.

  26. You can be a man who supports equal rights for women without being a "feminist."  Just my opinion, but men who self-identify as feminists seem to have some other issues going on.

  27. Any other guy I hang out with has to have some sense of equality among the sexes.  So obviously I don't think other males who identify with egalitarianism are creepy.  Now misogynists and chauvinists on the other hand......

  28. Why would a male not be able to be a feminist?  Why would it be creepy?  If they believe EQUAL rights and fight for EQUAL rights...not just women's of course it is a good thing.

    You may possibly want to evaluate why you see these men as a threat or intimidating...creepy if you will.

  29. "So-called".  Are you trying to tell me that you don't believe I exist?

    Males have always been feminists alongside the women.  Males who care about female equality have, anyway.  It's not a new phenomena, nor is it creepy.  Frankly, I'd be scared if NO men agreed with their cause, because that would mean something was deeply wrong with the society.

  30. I thnk men are either anti-feminists or are indifferent to feminism. I think male feminists are feminine, delicate, and weak. My guess is they never had a strong father figure and a very stong mother figure. Whatever women think and do is right. The patriarchy is bad. It let them down.

    To Tracey & the rest of the feminist: "Finally, there are women who choose a feminine, delicate, and weak husband. They are motivated by their own masculine attitude, although they often are not aware of the fact. However, they also harbor a desire for a strong brutal male who will take them by force. Therefore, they will hold against the husband his inability to live up to both sets of expectations and will secretly despise him for his weakness." Karen Horney, Feminine Psychology, Pg. 124

  31. creepy, brain washed, weak, and whipped!

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