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What does everyone think of the ethonal fuel.?

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i live in kansas for us business is booming with wheat at 11 a bushal and corn keeps going up.Its nice to see farmers finaly making money Where we havent in such a long time but the ethonal is taking so much of or commodities that its making evrything else go up like the price of beef because its costing way more to feed cattle and bread is skyrocketing are towns elevator is about out of grain till wheat harvest.The supply and demand of coarse. I was wondering how people else where felt of this

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  1. I'm holding out until there are actually fueling stations for it.  There aren't many across the country yet.  I am glad for the farmers.


  2. when compared to gasoline,ethanol is safer, but energy produced will be less! moreover it s corrosive!

    u can ethanol in any vehicle only upto 20pc and 80pc should be gasoline!

    for 100pc ethanol u should modify ur engine!

    hc co nox emissions are lesser in ethanol

  3. I currently run Bio Fuel (straight vegetable) in a 1999 Dodge 3500 truck. But all Cummins engines were modified from the factory to run on BioD since around 1992 without any modification.

    Most vehicles are already equipped to run on Alternative Energy. In fact you’re probably even driving one right now and didn’t even know it. Go to www agua-luna com for a list of this vehicles

    The following are a couple types of products to make ethanol easily. There are however many materials one can use including sugar cane, corn, wood, etc. The information was cut directly from a guide I offer at www agua-luna com, it is complete but if anyone’s interested in other types of foods to use or a more specific step by step of the process, including building your own still legally, visit www agua-luna com

    "THE usual sources of raw material for alcohol Ethanol production from starch are cereal grains such as corn, wheat, rye, barley, milo (sorghum grains), rice, etc. Other types of starch are available from potatoes of all kinds, Jerusalem artichokes, and other high-starch vegetables. Starch conversion is the standard method of production and the one we will discuss here.

    It is possible, however, to make alcohol from sugar-producing plants (saccharine material) such as sugar beets, sugarcane, fruits, and others. These substances need no milling (as do grains), but they do require some kind of grinding or squeezing process. Rapid, efficient fermentation of these sugars has not been as well explored as the process using starch.

    A third source of fermentables is cellulose, as found in wood and waste sulphite liquor. This more complex process requires the use of acids to reduce the material to wood sugars. Consequently, most do-it-yourselfers should stick to either starch or sugar.

    MILLING

    All grains must be ground before mashing to expose the starch granules and help them remain in suspension in a water solution. The grain should be ground into a meal -- not a flour! -- that will pass a 20-mesh screen. On a hammermill, however, a 3/16" screen will suffice.

    Potatoes and similar high-moisture starch crops should be sliced or finely chopped. Since potato starch granules are large and easily ruptured, it isn't necessary to maintain the hard rapid boil which is required of the tougher, dryer "flinty" starches found in grains.

    CONVERSION WITH ENZYMES

    For small batches (5 bushels or less), fill the cooker with water (30 gallons per bushel), and add the meal slowly, to prevent lumps from forming. (When, cooking with steam, or at higher temperatures, it is possible to save energy by using less water at the beginning. But for the "small batcher" with an ordinary cooking apparatus, the most complete conversion is obtained by using the full amount of water right from the start to encourage a rapid rolling boil.)

    Next, add 3 measuring spoons -- as provided -- per bushel of Alpha Amylase Enzyme (mixed in water) to the mixture and raise the temperature of the mash to 170 deg F (77 deg C), the optimum working environment for the enzyme. Hold the solution at that temperature for 15 minutes while agitating it vigorously.

    At this point all the starch available at 170 deg F has been converted to dextrins, so it's time to raise the temperature of the mash to the boiling point. The concoction should be liquid enough to roll at its own rate -- if not, add 2 to 3 gallons of water. Hold the boil for 30 minutes to complete the liquefaction stage. All the starches are now in solution.

    Now reduce the temperature to 170 deg F, using the cooling coil, and add 3 more measuring spoons per bushel of Alpha Amylase Enzyme (mixed in water). After 30 minutes of agitation at this temperature, all the previously released starches will have been reduced to dextrins, thereby completing primary conversion.

    During secondary conversion the dextrins are further reduced to simple sugars (maltose and glucose) by the beta, or -- to be more exact -- glucoamylase enzymes. You need Alpha Amylase Enzyme and the yeast necessary to carry out secondary conversion and proper fermentation simultaneously, you can add 6 measuring spoons per bushel of the fermentation powder (mixed in water) as soon as you've brought the temperature down to 85 deg F (29 deg C) using the cooling coils."

    Hope this helped, feel free to contact me personally if you have any questions if you’d like assistance in making your first self sufficient steps, I’m willing to walk you step by step threw the process. I’ve written several how-to DIY guides available at  www agua-luna com on the subject. I also offer online and on-site workshops, seminars and internships to help others help the environment.

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  4. Basically it's good for the farmers, bad for everyone else.

    Ethanol is cheaper per gallon than gasoline, but it has a lower energy density, so it takes 4 gallons of ethanol to go the same distance as 3 gallons of gasoline, and it ends up costing more.

    Studies have also shown that ethanol actually contributes more to global warming than gasoline because land that could be used for CO2-absorbing forests is instead used for growing corn or some other crop.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

    And then of course it drives the price of corn up, which is great for the farmers but bad for people trying to feed their families.

  5. Ask yourself why should I feed my car wheat and not my kids? Anybody promoting Bio fuel is keeping a dirty little secret from you...The production of bio fuel consumes vast amounts of water ( Notice in AGUA-LUNA article it takes 32 gallons of water to make just 5 gallons of gas) Now if I am wrong tell me!

      All your Bio Fuels that convert a solid to a liquid need water, pure water which is getting scarcer. (You just can’t reuse the waste water it has to be purified first that equals more energy into the system and less out.)

        The waste by product is also a great place for bacteria and other stuff to grow. I don’t think they mention that that has to be properly disposed of to prevent all the biological by products (molds / yeasts and bacteria) getting into the air and causing health problems.  If you have ever been around a ethanol plant the stink can be overpowering.

       Ethanol is the food of foreign oil interests. The US has more oil off the coast of Florida and Virginia than the reserves held in Saudi Arabia. The majority of groups that don’t want us to drill in Alaska are backed by Venezuela because once we start producing our proven reserves we will be exporting about 10% of the world’s requirements

  6. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

    I heard a report that Ethanol pollutes more than Gasoline.

    Arrggggg!

  7. I think that ethanol is overhyped. Everyone says it is so good for the environment but it pollutes like oil. Hydrogen is the way to go.

  8. I can't wait because I'm sick of paying the middle east for what I need to put in my vehicle to get to work.

  9. It's stupid, it raises food prices, and does almost nothing for the environment. The only pros are that we don't have to waste fuel and money importing it and we don't have to drill into the earth to find it.

  10. im not really sure but some people have tried vegetable oil in the car. freaky right?

    i hope they can use water as an energy source like a book im reading called Pendragon- The Lost City Of Faar

  11. Ethanol is problematic as a fuel for several reasons:

    1) The amount of energy that goes into making it is greater than the energy that is expended by burning it. Energy return on investment...

    2) There isn't enough land to grow enough corn (or some other crop, though sugar cane theoretically doesn't have this problem) in the US to produce the amount of energy consumed by cars.

    3) It drives up food prices by adding to the demand when supply cannot increase very much in response. This is already a problem in Mexico to my understanding.

    4) Growing crops for bio-fuels furthers the creation of mono-cultures, which is very bad for the environment as biodiversity is already low enough.

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