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What exactly constitutes a U-turn in California?

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The definition I found is:

665.5. A "U-turn" is the turning of a vehicle upon a highway so as to proceed in the opposite direction whether accomplished by one continuous movement or not.

I got a ticket for making a u-turn in a posted no u-turn zone. The actual circumstances were I went to the end of a street that ended with a cross street going perpendicular to it. I pulled into an extra lane to drop my family off at Venice Beach. Before they got out I backed up a car length or so to get away from other traffic coming down the street I came off of. Once they got out I signaled and merged with the traffic coming from the cross street. I then drove forward a bit and made a left turn after signaling. A half block up the street was an officer standing in the street pulling cars over for illegal u-turns. It would seem to me that stopping and dropping people off and reentering traffic and turning is different that turning back up the street you came down. I need good advice on whether I can defend myself to avoid the $160 ticket. My basis for this would be that my actions did not constitute a u-turn. Any other approaches to fighting the ticket would also be appreciated. Since I live out of state I will be doing this by writing rather than in person. Thanks in advance.

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  1. Just pay the 160... you know? going against traffic is also a big deal, you know that what you did is wrong so stop being that sneaky and pay the 160 is not that much!


  2. Your re entry to traffic was wrong. You backed into on coming traffic.

    The U turn was done by your re entry to the location of the U turn to be finished?

  3. Gee,  sign said NO U TURN,  you made a U_TURN and you are surprised and upset you got a ticket.

    What you did is a U TURN.

    Geeeeez

    Pay the man and obey traffic sigs.

  4. Did you ever leave the road in that process?  Note that the law appears to say that it doesn't matter if it was a continuous movement or not. As long as you reversed direction on a road without leaving the road, it's a U-turn.  Even if you did it on a different road, it's still a road.

    Unless you pulled off the road (into a driveway or parking lot, etc.) and then pulled out to go the other way, I bet it will be a u-turn unfortunately.

    Here's the picture I get:

    You're driving up road A and you reach the end of road A and turned onto road B and into the right right lane. You backed up so that the intersection of road A and B is ahead of you. You dropped off your family.  You merged back into the left lane and went ahead to then turn left onto road A and head back in the opposite direction you came from.

    Silly or note, that meets the definition you found of a U-turn since you never left the road. You changed roads, but you never left the road.

    I'd suggest comparing California's U-turn law to your own states.  If what you did is definitely legal in your own state, I'd write a letter of apology stating that you didn't realize that the California law is different than what you are used to. Include $80 and ask if that would be a fair reduction in fine given the circumstances.

    That's of course assuming you aren't able to find proof that you definitely did not make an illegal u-turn.

  5. You need to make yourself clear one more time.  So far I got that you did not make a U-turn on road A, you did make a U-turn on road B, there is no posted no U-turn sign on road B, there is a posted no U-turn sign on road A.  Or did I get that all backwards?

    AD:  You have described what is essentially a three-point U-turn.  (Turned left, stopped, backed up in reverse, stopped, turned left again.)  If that is not what you intended to convey then perhaps you should make "a visual of the setting:" http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?...

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