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What have feminists to say about Pregnancy Privileges

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I have heard feminists claim that Govt(through law or otherwise) needs to provide special privileges to women undergoing pregnancy.

Suppose tomorrow a technique comes up which allows men to give birth to babies outside the womb of a woman. Would woman then agree that precious tax dollars be spent by Govt on helping all men conceive such babies externally under the pretext that men have no choice to have babies as abortion is the sole decision of the woman involved.

Men obviously should have choice to further their own generation as currently they can only rely on mercy of a woman if at all they want to see their next generation.

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  1. First of all I am a woman.  Yes I think that if men were to go this road, they should be assisted.  By they way, I am not a feminist.  I do not believe in equality as to me, men and women are very different and therefore not equal.  I hope this helps.  Feel free to mail me if you wish to continue the discussion:-)


  2. When I was 8 months pregnant with my second child I had to park far away from the grocery store one day.  I was in pain with this pregnancy.  My first born who was with me at the time said "Mommy, why can't you use the handicap spot while you are pregnant, since most of those people have are having an easier time than you right now"--- My reply was,  "Because MEN DON'T  HAVE  BABIES!!!!"  'nuff said.

    *Nic--we don't have family parking spots where I live.  Call it awful if you like, it is the truth.

  3. Unless the human race collectively decides to end itself with the current youngest generation, it needs to be possible for people to procreate. Most people WANT to procreate (though not all do).

    It's not feminism that decided only females give birth, but biology.

    Any government program forcing EVERY person to procreate would be wrong (as would any government policy preventing everyone from procreating is wrong).

  4. Sure!... deliver the resposibility to conceive to men?... absolutely

  5. Sure I'd support that...heck the hubby wants another kid sign him up.

    As to your comment about the future generations...there are plenty of people being born every day more in fact then those dying.  End of humans isnt going to come from lack of babies.

    Did you just refer to children like an asset? like real estate or a car.  wow you need to stop now

  6. Men have no choice to have babies because of abortion?  Funny, it seems like there are plenty of men who are able to find willing partners to procreate with.  

  7. ""I have heard feminists claim that Govt(through law or otherwise) needs to provide special privileges to women undergoing pregnancy.""  Where did you hear this and who did you hear say this?    Definitely not me!

    Should tax dollars be spent helping men conceive?    No- and I doubt many men would do this.  

    As for the "mercy of a woman" to have descendants- no.  Partners decide together to have children all of the time.   If you are trying to correlate this to abortion - nope- even with accidental pregnancies- more women have the babies than abort.   More men want their partners to have abortions than women having them.  Go read the pregnancy section for a week or so.  

    EDIT: No, we do not need to spend millions of dollars to help men conceive.   The human race is not in danger of dying out.   As for giving birth effortlessly- I sure can tell you haven't been pregnant or given birth.  Nothing about it is effortless.   I am a firm believer that babies need two parents.  A mother and a father.

  8. idrc

  9. For Carl F...in Ontario, Canada we are allowed one year of mat-leave when we have a baby and we can take it however we want as a family.  If mom goes back to work in 3 mos then dad can take the other 9.  Sometimes both take the first 6 mos....whatever, up to you.

    And no the government should not help men conceive unless this is something that's covered for women.  To the best of my knowledge, fertility is an issue that is not covered by the government healthcare system unless it relates directly to another health issue. If a woman can't concieve it's up to her to pay for whatever steps she takes to circumvent her problem.  

    As for being at the mercy of a woman to see their next generation....how could you get that seriously involved with someone without knowing weather or not they want children?  I would assume that if the relationship is ever approaching the point where this may be a consideration it would have come up at some point.

    Paintedhorse: that's awful...I guess we don't know how good we've got it here because most malls and whatnot have a couple of "family" parking spots for preg moms or families with small children.  While handicap spots are blue with a white wheel chair symbol, "family" spots are pink with a baby carriage.

  10. What exactly is your problem? You've managed to rant and whine at everyone who dared to answer that senseless question of yours. Did all that noise make you feel any better? What exactly is your beef with pregnant women? Someone actually carried you around in her body for 9 months and then proceeded  in excruciating pain to deliver you into this world, so you can start inventing possible ways to insult her for all the work she'd put into your existence. It is either the lowest point of degradation or a mental disease. Either way you do need help of qualified professionals. There is absolutely nothing we can do for you here.

  11. Maybe I'm entering the conversation a little late, and don't know the whole story, but I would think that if a man wants to have babies, he'd find and marry a woman who wants to have babies.

    And if they can't agree on it, they should find someone they CAN agree with...

    I don't guess I get the debate.

  12. When u can push a 10lb person out of your v****a you can have your say.


  13. dude if men want to gain a ton of weight, carry it around, deal with horrendous hormones and then squeeze a watermelon out of a hole that used to be the size of a grape, i'll get you whatever privileges you want!  

  14. Pregnancy is a self inflicted temporary medical state. It is not a disability, nor is it an amazing accomplishment setting you apart from others. It warrants no special treatment as far as I'm concerned.

  15. Wow.  I think the more relevant and realistic question is whether or not maternity leave should be extended to fathers of newborns as it is to mothers or newborns.  I won't comment on feminists other than to say that when it comes to men, oftentimes they are quite a open-minded about things.

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