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What if the mother says no she doesn't want to sign can the social worker for the adoption get into trouble if

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she tells the mother too bad your made your decision now sign it.. that can't happen could it

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  1. The Social Worker should get in trouble, yes.  And I think the vast majority of adoptive parents would not wish to adopt the child under the circumstances of a coerced signing.  

    Also, every state has a time frame for the birth (or first) mother to change her mind.  The length of time varies from state-to-state.


  2. Sadly, it has happened.  But yes, a social worker SHOULD get in trouble for speaking like this or forcing someone to do something they don't want to.

    When we were adopting our son, it was supposed to be a private adoption.  The state stepped in and tried to place the child in foster care and thus preventing the private adoption.  The social worker told me point blank it was because my son was "a caucasian infant and therefore a hot commodity".  I was appalled.  Fortunately, we had a family court judge who sided with the biological family and allowed the private adoption to go through.  However, I know that both myself and the bio family wrote several letters to the state social services program to complain about how they were treating the child.  I also wrote to the Governor of the state as well as other representatives of government so that they were aware of the type of issues their social workers need to be trained on.

  3. The social worker can REALLY get into trouble. They are making the birth mother sign papers under duress. The birth mother just has to go to the police after she signs the papers and tell them she was forced to do so.  Then the social worker will get into trouble and it could end up as a possible kidnapping.  That would not look good for the adoptive parents either.  If they had a kidnapping on their record they for sure would not be able to ever adopt again.

  4. Don't you let anyone force you into giving up your baby... there is always time to make up your mind. no one has the right to FORCE or PRESSURE you they may count on your age and inexperience, but try to be strong and do what you feel is right... This is the most important decision you will ever make.There is also a thing called Open adoption that works very well where you can see your child and have a relationship/ the family... take your time.. google open adoption, call one of the Lawyers and talk to them. Just to see give them no info on you just ask questions...

  5. Heck yeah the SW can get into trouble.  and unfortunately it does happen.

  6. The social worker should not pressure anyone into signing. If and when you have an appointment with any SW always make sure you have someone along with you for your visit this way you have backup. Never allow anyone to pressure you into signing anything and always read first.

  7. You can not be forced to sign the papers. And the social worker should be reported if she is trying to bully someone into signing adoption papers when they have cahnged their minds or they jusy don't want to sign.

  8. This can happen and does happen. It is both illegal and unethical!!!!

  9. I suppose they can, but if the birthmother changes her mind, she shouldn't sign ANYTHING.  And I would hope the social worker could get in trouble for it, but the birthmother may be naive and not know who to tell or be afraid to tell on the social worker.

  10. It can happen.  If a parent relinquishes their rights, they have the right to change their minds...it can't be just because I changed my mind (at least not with a Native American child), it has to be because they were "pushed" into the relinquishment.  In other words you can't just "appeal" your own decision...

  11. The Social Worker should get into trouble, but they don't.  If the mother doesn't want to sign, don't sign it and insist on getting your kid back immediately.

  12. It can happen.  It has happened.  It's not ethical, but it's also not uncommon.

  13. it is ABSOLUTELY UNETHICAL!  and there is NO LAW which says that a woman must give up her child; even if she made a plan. as for a SW getting into trouble, i would definitely let his/her supervisor know. and if they "poo-poo" it, go to the media.  i'm sure they would LOVE this type of story.

    basically, this *quack*...i mean social worker, gets PAID from placements.  hence, there is no incentive to support a woman who wants to keep her baby.  as such, most will do almost ANYTHING to make sure a placement goes through.

    this is exactly what the adoption agency tried to do when i changed my mind to place my son.

    basically, unless a woman has signed a termination of parental rights IN COURT, no body can make her sign. and quite honestly, she can walk out and use the form as toilet paper :-). there's nothing legally bonding prior to LEGAL TERMINATION OF PARENTAL RIGHTS. if parental rights haven't been termination, there is nothing that they can do, especially if she's still pregnant.

    i'm not sure if this woman is you, but if so, please email me.  i would love to tell you my experience with the adoption industry; hence my reason for advocating for reform.

  14. The social worker can say whatever s/he wants to say, but the mother is under no obligation to sign relinquishment documents.  It is a breach of ethics for the social worker to attempt to coerce a mother into signing, although some have done exactly this.  Some workers may not say it in the terms you describe, but instead say things like:

    --It's just your hormones talking.  You know it's best to give up the baby.

    --Just think how heartbroken you will make the PAP's.

    --You can't just back out now.

    --Let's talk about everything we've discussed over the past few months about how adoption is the right choice.

    There are mothers who have changed, or wanted to change, their minds and have been met with such tactics by social workers.

  15. I doubt the social worker can actually force the mother to sign the form for adoption but she will probably put a lot of pressure on the mother because the social worker will already have a set of parents ready to take the baby.

    If the baby hasn't been born yet and the mother is having second thoughts then perhaps she should see a legal person (even the citizen advice bureau) so that she can find out how to stop the adoption process.

  16. Yes.  A potential birthmother can change her mind any time before she signs the papers as well as during the period of revocation.  

    Caseworkers have been known to use many different kinds of coercive methods to get a woman to change their minds.  Many caseworkers are actually trained on how to befriend a potential birthmother so that it will be harder for her to change her mind.

    Alison Quets was put in a room for hours and finally forced to sign.  She has tried for months to get her children back to no avail.  Don't let anyone force you to sign.

    There is nothing wrong with changing one's mind.  And no one can legally force a woman to sign if she doesn't want to.  No matter how much they threaten.

    Know your rights.

  17. they cannot force you to sign anything. But they can leaglly take away your parental rights if they feel they have a reason. But there is a process that doesn't happen very quickly.

  18. When does the adoption process become legal?

    Although social workers arrange adoptions, they are made legally binding by the courts.

    The court will make sure that you are definite about your decision to put your child up for adoption and that the child's new home is the right environment for him/her to grow up in.

    The adoption is usually made  legal after three months .

  19. Social workers say things like this all the time. It DOES NOT mean you have to sign. If you are at all feeling like you want to parent then DON'T SIGN THE PAPERS!

    What this social worker is doing is called coercing. It is wrong, sick, twisted and unethical, yet they do it time and time again.

    Here is a list of common coercion tactics employed by social and adoption workers.

    http://www.originscanada.org/adoption_co...

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