What is WRONG WITH MEN IN EUROPE?

Question

I'm a college student here in the U.S and this summer I did the "studying abroad" like most universities have. There were about 45 students this summer from the business school in my University.

I'm 23 years and I consider myself a good looking girl because I take care of myself. I do not look down on others or races. I'm obvious white, 115 pounds, 5"5" tall, 36 bust. In college i have a lot of guys going after me and my friends.

STUDY ABROAD SUMMER:

This summer the study abroad was in london. We were so excited about being in london and meeting good looking british guys. To our surprise, we found that european men preferred to go after black women. This was shocking and such an eye opener to me and my white girl friends.

We went to pubs, clubs, restaurants. lounges and some other fancy places. It was the same. They bought drinks for them. Thats not to say that white men did not hit on white girls just that seemed to be on equal grounds. Which is good but surprising because this does not usually happen in america.

OUR GROUP:

our group of girls had 3 white girls and 2 African American girls. I'm not racist. Even in school this is our usual circle of friends. We travelled together in Europe and every where else.

WHAT HAPPENED:

Every time we went out, the british white guys would mostly be after the African American girls. My African American girls are also pretty. It's just that it shocked us the white American girls. We thought, we would be the first pick. I guess we are used to the white American guys not appraoching black girls, I thought it would be the same there.

LEARNING EXPERIENCE:

I found that in europe a white girl is not the most wanted girl. I learned tthat white and black girls have equal chances when it comes to men there. We found that there are many white men and black women couples in the U.K as there are black men and white women couples. Unlike in the U.S where there much more blcak men and white women couples compared to white men and black women couples

By the time we went out for the 4th times, we the white girls knew it was fair game for the men for both black and white girls.

I WAS HURT NOT because I'm white but because there were some guy there that i would have liked to have spent some time with but instead they chose to get to know an African America girl. I would have felt the same way had they chosen an other white girl over me

CONCLUSION:

Not all but from what we experienced we learned that european men view women of all races in the same way or view black women in better light than white american men. This happened when we went to France, Ireland, Scotland, Switerland, Italy and Germany.

Bare in mind that there are a lot black british people in the U.K. I have lived with black people for as long as we have.

I had a good time though. I learned a lot about other people and culture.

MY QUESTION:

Why is it different here. In america, i'm a 100% certain that if I were to walk in a place with only white men and I walked in with some African American girls that a white man would appraoch a black woman at least not in public or in front of a white girl.

What makes a white american man different from a white european man?

WE LEARNED THAT RACE DOES NOT SHAPE BEHAVIOR BUT CULTURE DOES.

Answer 1

Did you ever consider that your black travel mates might be just way more attractive than you and your white friends are? Perhaps you're overestimating your own beauty.

Answer 2

This question is inherently a sexist man bash. Most "white guys" do not have a problem with dating other ethnicity's.

Did you visit any small cities or towns? Similar behavior patterns can be seen in a good number of major american city's.

     FYI racism in Europe is so prevalent that I doubt the validity of this question and suspect it was created to bash men.

      

Answer 3

What is WRONG with men in Europe?

You consider something wrong with them because they didn't find YOU attractive???

Perhaps looking "inward" a little more will provide you with all the answers you need!

Answer 4

I spent this summer abroad as well.  I spent most of it in France but was also in England, Spain, Italy, and Greece.  However, I have to say that my experience was nothing like yours.  I may not be the most beautiful woman, but men LOVED me in Europe.  Even my friends would laugh and say the French men just loved me.  While in England, I got hit on quite a lot by English men.

Soooo, I don't know what to tell you, hon.  I didn't have this problem at all.  And I too hung out with women from other races and nationality.

EDIT-- I was there with black women-- and Spanish, South American, Japanese, Chinese, Korean, white (in all its varieties), and just about every other color.  That's what happens when you join an international program.  So no, I'm sorry, but your experience wasn't even close to mine.

EDIT-- Uh, no, none of them were fat.  Americans tend to be fatter than most other nationalities.  I'm not fat, but I'm not a stick and a lot of the girls I was with (particularly the Asian girls) were much smaller than me.  

I have to add, you seem to have a serious problem-- you assume that because the men in England were more interested in the African-American woman that there is something wrong with THEM.  You assume that because the men in Europe were interested in me that my friends had to be fat (and there as something wrong with THEM).  I'm starting to think that the problem is with YOU.  Did you ever consider that?

Answer 5

I just wanted to say your question was to long, so I didn't finish it.  

Answer 6

This is so typical its disgusting, I'm embarrassed of my own race. Every time a white person realizes they are not God's gift to the world they go on and complain about. Your NOT first get over it, my god you had to suffer this for several months while other people have to suffer their entire lives. Get over yourselves jeeze.

Because I see this everyday and the fact that you title your question "What's WRONG with European men" somehow signifies that liking black women first and white women second is wrong?

Answer 7

Perhaps they know something which American boys should know.

Answer 8

Okay from a black womans perspective I find your question very racist. You found that you were on a even playing field and that was a problem to you? So then do you feel that the rest of the world should be more like America where women of ethnicity have to overcome odds in order to be considered equal with white women?

Also what kind of friend are you? You should have been happy for your African American friends. Maybe they were finally getting some of the attention they deserved seeing as how they are all fit, pretty, and educated just like you. You even just said I hope my friend was joking about moving from the US. I doubt that was said because you will miss her.

As the old saying goes beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You view yourself and other white women as better because society has told you that you are. Unfortunately for you those men who were present during your trip did not believe that bullshit.

I am a beautiful black woman and I feel interracial dating is a wonderful thing. It teaches us about others as we learn about ourselves. I see many white women who date black men here in the US and have no problem with it as long as they are happy. But then on the flip side everytime I step out with my gorgeous white bf I get all kinds of dirty looks from white women.

Why is there so much animosity. How about working on being a happy, healthy, self confident woman. If you do that you will not run into any obstacles that prevent men from wanting you.

Answer 9

1. London is not in Europe.  If you don't know this then I suspect you were never there to begin with.  Londoners would NEVER self-identify as Europeans.  Its an "us and them" kind of mentality, which explains in part why they still aren't using the Euro - like the Europeans are.

2. This is a rant with racist overtones.

3. Schizophrenia - Chronic (ICD-9 295.02) can be treated with antipsychotic medications.

Answer 10

Whoa that's long..

But anyway... What do you expect from those european men? I mean, come on.. they wear speedos.

Answer 11

get over it; good lord.

Answer 12

because when they go into the bathroom,

they are russian.

and when they go out of the bathroom,

they are chinese.

so what are your when your in the bathroom.

EUROPEAN!

Answer 13

Ah, life teaches you many lessons does it not??

Americans are not as wordly as you would have thought....I do believe you learned that lesson correct?

One think about America in general...and Canada is the same for that matter....we THINK we are multi-cultural and think we know much about other cultures but only when you travel and experience things yourself do you truly get an understanding about cultures.

My guess is they prefer whatever it is that black women offer better than what white women do.  If it was me I would have asked that question of one of those European men because I truly would have wanted to know the answer! ;~)

And sorry....most Americans are far from worldy....they just THINK they know everything!!!  How many ever left the continent??  

Travel makes one worldly, but only when understanding comes with it.

Bingo....you got it.  Europeans are much more sophisticated and in fact fashion etc. originates THERE and comes to America....not the other way around.  

They are miles ahead than any westerners despite what you may think.  That is why they find black people so adorable.  They have always been welcome in Europe - 30 years ago when I was in Italy there were black people everywhere...with perfect Italian....

WE are the ones behind the times....not they!! ;~)

I travelled plenty in my day and just have an appreciation for people.  An open mind is a great thing!!

PS:  Of course it could be that you were in some hick part of town where black girls were a noveltytoo....after all there are hicks even in Europe!  So you will have to decide if they were sophisticated or just horny perverts. LOL

$800 per night?  I used to go last minute for $800/week! LOL  I sure hope you had the penthouse suites complete with heart shaped hot-tubs, fur-lined beds and your personal masseuse or you got ripped off!

I'm sure those pub boys can smell high maintenance a mile away girlfriend!!

Answer 14

There probably sick of white woman.  

Answer 15

If I were a man, I wouldn't look at you either.  Get over yourself!  LOL

Answer 16

OIC ~  Sometimes it takes me a while! You are a racist troll. Whoops! Disregard the previous answer, and instead accept this one: Deal with it.

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To begin with, I don't actually think England is 'Europe', except in a technical sense as a member of the EU, but it has spent most of its long history fighting various European countries for the independence of its state and culture.

But, having said that ~ maybe the places you went to, the girls you were travelling with were considered better looking, seemed more approachable or were just prettier.

I don't think you can base an idea of ALL 'European' men on this experience, because you could not have gone to more than, what 100 places and even in a small-ish city there would be more than that. So maybe it was just the places you went to.

And, the second thought is, what is 'wrong' about this anyway? So you and your paler friends missed out on the attention of men in bars, it's no biggie. The guys fancied someone else and that happens, in this case it happened to be the darker skinned girls, next time maybe it will be the blondes who get all the attention.

Cheers :-)

Answer 17

"It's just that it shocked us the white American girls. We thought, we would be the first pick."

Maybe the sense of entitlement and overblow expectations came across more clearly than you realize.

Answer 18

It is a very strange question. Now, truly open minded adult would react to this entire situation without twisting herself into a pretzel. People have different preferences: some prefer your type, others enjoy the appearance of your friends. Did you ever stop for a second and give a thought to possibility of your friend having a better personality or positive outlook on life? Because men ( all men, no matted where they come from ) prefer keeping company with interesting and funny women.

I bet, your friend enjoys herself a lot more than you on regular basis. And therefore other people respond to her fist. My point is: your jealousy is pitiful and childlike. Color of your friend's skin is not a reason for her being a first choice in some men's eyes, your own insecurity is.