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What is all the pain and suffering for? No nonsense answers please.?

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What is all the pain and suffering for? No nonsense answers please.?

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  1. It's well known as "The problem of evil" for a good reason.

    I.e., no one has ever given a good answer to this question.  Just relativistic hand-waving.


  2. The primary reason, I believe, is consequences from bad choices.

  3. we can't just always be happy.

    We have to feel suffering as well.

  4. Pain is part of life. It is part of being born. It just is.

    Suffering is much more optional, and is based on a confused mind.  

  5. the pain and suffering is all brought to you by the god of this world,

    satan the devil , it will all end when christ returns, destroys him and his followers, resurfaces this world and puts gods government in place

  6. To distinguish factors that have a damaging effect on the body.

    Goto -> Biology.

  7. Read C.S. Lewis

    But, a short answer is that it refines the believer and causes the sinner to seek God.

  8. Spiritual exercise

  9. I don't think it's "for" anything ... it simply "is" and we don't move forward in life until we deal with it...the world is not my spiritual gymnasium with which I can build my morality muscles - life is far too complicated to reduce it to that..

    You've hit upon the essential differences in the approaches we have developed about life...to assign "meaning" to everything, iregardless if you have sufficent proof of an author, or to only assign meaning when the author is evident.  The point of what is sufficent evidence is the only remaining question...

  10. It's how life works.

    I'm atheist, I know how life works, it comes with the atheist package.

    I'm Atheist!

  11. Karmic Law

    We have pain and suffering to punish us for our past bad deeds

    This is not nonsense, it is my belief as a Buddhist

  12. If this world was perfect, so pain no nothing, then what's the point of living.

    A perfect world can only be achieved if everyone's the same, and only if there is difference will there be excitement.

    Don't deny this but if the world was free of pain and suffering, or Perfect, then there won't be any:

    - Pornography (I don't care, I think this should be prohibited)

    - Sports (If everyone's equal, which makes the world perfect, only draws)

    - No joy or much purpose in life (That's why God gave us free will!)

    The Pain and Suffering is to teach people a lesson, God gave us these punishments, even though 99.999% of them is our fault so we can learn from our experiences and everything.


  13. Most people are not interested in the Lord until they're at the end of their rope.  Trials tend to make people more interested in spiritual things.  Tribulation worketh patience.  I don't know where that is, but it's in the Bible.  Problems help us to develop character.  God is just.  Even though things look bad, God works them out for good (Romans 8:28).  God loves us and knows what's best for us in the long run.  

  14. For every law must be an opposition. This is the only way we can learn and appreciate.  

  15. Good question.    I think that if we lived in a bubble- everything was perfect from the day we were born- we never ever knew one moment of pain or fear or discomfort- physical, mental or emotional, we wouldn't even appreciate it.

    Like a kid who is handed everything on a silver platter- does that produce gratefulness?  That's one example.

    Have you ever seen the movie, "Pleasantville"?  The entire message wasn't one I really liked- but it did show how people would be if they were just pre-programmed into one mode- nice, happy, without really knowing "why"- it doesn't make sense.

    If we never knew loneliness,  would we appreciate companionship? If we never tasted sorrow- would we appreciate joy? If we never felt pain, would we appreciate health? If you never really knew thirst, would you appreciate a drink, etc etc.

  16. Jesus had pain and suffering while on earth, He took on our sins, remember over in Isaiah 53 it says with His stripes we are healed. Ours sins causes us pain and suffering, but thankfully Jesus paid the price on the cross for them and if you accept Him as your Lord and Saviour your sins are paid for and when you die you willl go to a place that has no pain and suffering, To accept Jesus as your Saviour just bow your head and humbley ask him to forgive you of all your sins and ask Him to come into your heart and save you. If you are sincere He will, He did for me and it changed my life forever. It is a life changing decision, and one you will never regret.  

  17. Why is there evil and suffering in the world?



         The curious as well as the critics of Christianity ask this question. If God is all-powerful and all loving, then why does He permit evil and suffering in the world? Various answers have been given but permanently settling the issue is impossible because so many of our answers raise further questions. Nevertheless, our lack of ability to answer the question perfectly does not mean that we cannot offer solutions. Of course, I do not assume to be able to answer these questions definitively, but I can offer some solutions.

         First of all, it is possible that God has reasons for allowing evil to exist that we simply cannot understand. In this the Christian can have confidence in God knowing that His ways are above our ways (Isaiah 55:8-9). As the Bible says, the just shall live by faith (Hab. 2:4).

         Second, God may be letting evil run its course in order to prove that evil is evil and that suffering, which is the unfortunate product of evil, is further proof that anything contrary to God’s will is bad, harmful, painful, and leads to death.

         God gave Adam dominion over the world (Gen. 1:28). When he rebelled against God, he set in motion an entire series of events and changed the very nature of man and creation. Both were affected by sin. Creation was no longer a paradise, but bore thorns and thistles (Gen. 3:17-18; Rom. 8:22). People became sinful (Rom. 5:12; Eph. 2:3), who were haters of God (Rom. 3:19-12), etc. The only conclusion to such a situation is death. Jesus said, "And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened" (Matt. 24:22).

         Sin is rebellion against God and His created order. But God has not left us alone in this fallen world. He continued to enter this world, pointing us to Himself, to truth, to morality, purity, and love. He used the evil of the world (liars, perjurers, the envious, etc), to bring His Son to the cross so that we might have the opportunity of eternal life. In this, God has not stepped away from fallen creation, but has stepped into it by becoming Jesus. God works within the fallen world to affect change and He uses fallen people to accomplish His will. In this, He is proving His sovereignty over evil, suffering, and rebellious people, proving that sin and evil are utterly futile, and that He is worthy of honor and glory.

         A third possible reason that God is letting evil occur is so that on the day of judgment, the condemned will have no right to say that their sentence is unjust. God is not stopping people from exercising their free will. Think about this: If someone said that God should stop evil and suffering, then should God then stop all evil and suffering? If God only stopped some of it, then we would still be asking the same question of why it exists. So, if we want God to stop evil and suffering, then He must stop all of it. We have no problem with this when it means stopping a catastrophe, or a murder, or a rape. But what about when someone thinks of something evil? Evil is evil whether it is acted out or not. Hatred and bigotry in someone’s heart is wrong. If it is wrong, and if God is to stop all evil, then He must stop that person from thinking his own thoughts. To do that, God must remove his freedom of thought. Furthermore, which person on the earth has not thought something evil? God would be required, then, to stop all people from exercising their free will. This is something God has chosen not to do. Therefore, we could say that one of the reasons that God permits evil and suffering is because of man’s free will.

         Fourth, it is quite possible that God uses the suffering to do good. In other words, He produces patience through tribulation (Rom. 5:3). Or He may desire to save someone through it. Take for example, the account of Joseph who was sold into slavery by His brothers. What they did was wrong and Joseph suffered greatly for it. But, later, God raised up Joseph in Egypt to make provisions for the people of that land during the coming drought of seven years. But not only was Egypt saved, but also so was his family and brothers who originally sold him into slavery. Joseph finally says to them, "You meant it for evil, but God meant it for good" (Gen. 50:15-21). Of course, the greatest example of God using evil for good is the death of Christ. Evil people brought him to the cross, but God used that cross as the means to save the world.

         But then we must ask, if this is true, are we working against God by working against evil and suffering? No, we are not. God says he does not want us to sin and suffer. But it is simply true that God can use evil despite of its apparent despicable nature.

         God is in the world using the world and its failures for His glory and the benefit of those who listen to Him.

         But then, what about those who seem to innocently suffer with no benefit resulting

  18. it's too keep a balance in the world, u must have pain to know what pleasure is, u must have sadness to know how happiness feels. it's a yin-yang effect.  

  19. Pain and suffering.  Two things that men like yourself have puzzled over for generations.  Why are they here?  Simply put, they are here because of sin (Genesis 3 and Romans 5:12).  But why does God allow pain and suffering.  

    1.  Because He is God.  He knows what is best.

    2.  To shape us.  Just as a diamond is cut and shaped through the use of something unpleasant.

    3.  And most importantly,  how would you know what is good if you did not know what was bad?

  20. pain is an indicator that something is not functionaing correctly in your body.

    suffering is an indicator that the situation you are in is not ok for you.

  21. Since you put it that way, do you wear no nonsense pantyhose?

  22. We are just animals,we feel pain and we suffer,it has no meaning or higher purpose.

  23. Look at the natural world.  The prey and predator.  There is horrible savagry in nature.  We humans aren't unique in having suffering.  It doesn't have a grander point.  Rather than framing the question that way, you could look at it differently:  "How can I find meaning in spite of pain and suffering?"

    I would seriously suggest, giving to others.  Find someone who has it even worse than you, and give to them.  Not once, but over and over for about 6 months.  Read to a child (the schools desperately need helpers) or just listen to old people at a hospital.  Your life will be richer and you'll find great meaning.

  24. it builds character

  25. Lulz.

  26. the apostle Paul tells us that we can learn and grow from all the suffering,even if you don't believe in GOD,you can get great advise from the Holy Book.

  27. To learn to avoid just like putting your hand on a hot stove.Forgiveness removes all pain.

  28. for our sins that we commited. most times we want to blame others for what happens to us but why don't we ever believe that it is our own doings?

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