What is better for a person who is 6'1": Judo or Brazilian Jujitsu

Question

I would like to know what is better for a tall person to do, either jujitsu or Judo. Id like the specs of it please, no "this is more popular in UFC, so it works". I hear that in judo you have to get your oponents body wheight on your hips, but if im doing it on a shorter person, itll be hard for me to do that. im not saying you dont have to do that in jujitsu, but thats what ive heard. so if anyone knows what would be better for me to do that would be great. I already do muay thai and taekwondo, so I dont need to start off with something like that, because im already in those things (also hapkido for any jointlokers looking to convert XD).

Also, please include the time it takes to get a black belt, belt test (if any), cost of belt test, cost of uniform, and any common injuries you get from both sports (if breaking your legs is one, im not doing this! lol) also include the techniches you learn and the emphasis on ground work, punches, sweeps, jointlocks, and anything else, like ettiquete in the class and if you make friends there.

Answer 1

Check them both out for yourself.

The better one is the one that seems to be more interesting TO YOU.

If it is more interesting, you are more likely to stick with it long enough to become proficient.

Answer 2

Just take what is available and affordable, but, if you get a chance to learn from Helio himself, go for BJJ.  The BJJ taught by Helio, was all about efficiency, quickness and speed.  The great majority of vale tudo fighters he encountered he often submitted in under 2 minutes, it was only against Kimura and Santana that he had problems, with Santana actually beating him.  Thing was though, Helio I think was like 5'4, and weighed what?  120 lbs?  Santana weighed I believe 220 lbs and it was all solid muscle.  Well, most of it.

Also, FYI, Royce Gracie is 6'2 I believe, and he's been able to use BJJ with success.  If anything being taller will give you an edge in the leverage and locking game.  Its easier to tie people up, after all, when you have more rope (e.g. longer limbs).  Even though Royce Gracie is skinny, the reason he was able to win against much heavier opponents, is because of his long limbs which he could use to tie up, well, just about anybody.  In grappling, also, when you deal with the high level stuff it isn't about strength, but your ability to get your limbs around crucial areas, so it is not so much the strenth of your limbs, but the length.  If they are long, and very strong though hey, all the better.

If Helio isn't around to teach you, I would go with Judo, especially a school affiliated with the Kodokan in Japan, or, an indpendent school ran by an instructor who trained at the Kodokan.  Those certificates, not just anybody can earn you know; when it comes to Judo, you better know what you're doing if you want the Kodokan's approval.

good luck.

Answer 3

your height probably is the least important factor; in any art there are advantages and disadvantages to any bosy type, it's just a matter of learning to work with it

yes, there are a number of throws in judo which involve getting your hips under your opponent (koshi-waza/hip techniques), which are more difficult if your opponent is shorter than you; however, there's an equally important class where height is an advantage (ashi-waza/leg techniques), or, specifically, the length of your legs; there's another class of te-waza/hand techniques, where relative height doesn't really matter

I can't speak to bjj, except to say that longer legs are an advantage when it comes to working in the guard

as for the logistics, it probably depends on where you study; most of my experience was with Judo, which tends to focus on training for judo style competitions, so there isn't much work with strikes, leg locks, neck cranks,or anything else which is illegal in competition; there is a ground work component, but the amount of focus it gets in class varies from school to school

my school has a greater focus on the mat than standing, focuses more on the traditional art than the competition aspect, so there's more etiquette, more time on technique, kata (which is where the self defense applications are) and a more laid back atmosphere

other schools may be more focuses on success in competition, so they may do more drilling, and cardio/strength work, more intense focus on fewer techniques, more focus on standing than matwork, etc.

as far as time to get black belt, if you were to train regularly, I would say 3-5 years; as for the testing, it depends on the governing body (usjf, usja) but there is no universal testing procedure; I'm in the usjf, where any black belt can promote any student up to 1st kyu (the rank below black belt), so it's kind of up to the teacher (I never tested; every once in a while my teacher just told me I was promoted); however, there are generally rules for promotion to black belt (depending on what state you live in) that usually involves an application process to a committe  

uniforms are usually more expensive than karate uniforms, because they have to be heavier in order to handle all the pulling and tugging during training; the two I bought were like $60 each I think

As for injuries, the only common one I know of is the knees, but it's pretty common; usually it's because someone did a throw wrong, or fell wrong; again, the focus on safety varies from school to school (my teacher is a little paranoid about it, hence the focus on matwork over standup)

I have spent much less time in a straight bjj classes, but there tends to be more focus on ground work and less on standing, fewer restrictions on types of techniques used (neck cranks, leg attacks, windpipe chokes, wristlocks, "crushes", etc); these are techniques which have been removed from judo due to their risk of injury

Answer 4

If you already know muay thai than go for Jiu-Jitsu. It's a style that teaches you how to attack and defend purely on the ground, it also teaches you interesting ways to take people down. It was derived from Judo. I'd say it's more useful, because with it I dominate strikers. Judo isn't as focused on finishing a fight as Jiu-Jitsu is even though judo teaches you almost all the same techniques. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu's main focus is to disable or otherwise incapacitate an opponent, whereas Judo is a more gentle art.

Answer 5

  Since I do not participate in Brazilian Jujutsu before I can't tell you which is better.One thing,I used to train in Judo.And I can take-out most adversary,you know,if they weren't trained.

I don't know what is your sole motivation for wanting to learn martial-art.If you want to learn how to fight,I would say Judo is a good choice because the technique are relatively easy to execute and the ground-techniques are very effective in a real fight.

Look I gotten into a fight with one guy last weekend and he was taller than me.I got him good,and I can just manipulate him like a doll.The fight ended when I knock his head on the ground.

Judo works.