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i have a 8500 now and to be honest it slams! but it got a rip in the rubber by my little sister putting stuff in the trunk so im in the market for a new sub. ive looked into RE but they are under new owner now and the old owenr well half owner started FI audio and they seem to be pretty nice. but what else is out there? i mean dont tell me about the orion hcca subs unless your only putting like 1000 watts to it or something off the wall. tell me about anything youve heard that suprised you by being just one sub. and please do not metion the type R's. the 8500 kills that thing...so im looking to get something thats a little bit louder than what i have right now without going up to a 15.
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