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What is more important,fighting over Shiaism and Sunnism,OR following five pillars of Islam?

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because on the day of Judgment, we will be answering to Allah for our OWN deeds.

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  1. Do you think Islaam is restricted to the 5 pillars?

    Allaah says:

    اتَّبِعُوا مَا أُنْزِلَ إِلَيْكُمْ مِنْ رَبِّكُمْ وَلَا تَتَّبِعُوا مِنْ دُونِهِ أَوْلِيَاءَ قَلِيلًا مَا تَذَكَّرُونَ

    (((Say to them O Muhammad) Follow what has been sent down unto

    you from your Lord (the Qur'aan and the Sunnah), and follow not any Awliyaa (protectors and helpers, etc. who order you to associate partners in worship with Allaah), besides Him (Allaah). Little do you remember!)) (Surah Al-A'raaf: 3)

    Imaam Aboo Ismaa’eel al Haraawee said in his Dhamm al Kalaam (1/111) that Yahya bin Yahya said:

    الذّبُّ عن السُّنّة أفضلُ من الجهاد في سبيل الله

    ((Defending the Sunnah is more virtuous than Jihaad))

    So Muhammad bin Yahya adh-Dhuhlee said:

    الرجلُ ينفِقُ مالَه ويُتْعِبُ نفسَه ويجاهد، فهذا أفضلُ منه؟

    ((A man gives his wealth and himself and fights on the battlefield, and then this is better than him?))

    Yahya bin Yayha replied:

    نعم بكثير!

    ((Yes much better))

    Ibn Taymiyyah also recorded in his Majmoo' al-Fataawa about Imaam Ahmad that it was said to him:

    إنه يثقل على أن أقول فلان كذا، وفلان كذا‏.‏ فقال‏:‏ إذا سكت أنت وسكت أنا، فمتى يعرف الجاهل الصحيح من السقيم

    ((I do not feel right about saying so-and-so is like this and so-and-so is like this. So (Imaam Ahmad) he said: If you remain silent, and if I remain silent then how will the ignorant person know the authentic from the defective?))

    EDIT:

    Marwa: Remember the saying of the Prophet salallaahu alaihi wa salam: من غش لنا فليس منا ((Whoever deceives is not from us))

    Aziz: Do you mean to say that the Aa'imah of Ahlus Sunnah were immature for writing books against the deviated sects and the rawaafidh Shee'ah?

    Imaam al-Bukhaaree said in his Khalq Af'aal al-'Ibaad 125,

    ما أبالي صليت خلف الجهمي والرافضي ، أم صليت خلف اليهود والنصارى ولا يسلم عليهم ولا يعادون ولا يناكحون ولا يشهدون ولا تؤكل ذبائحهم

    ((I do not give any consideration to prayer behind the Jahmee and the Raafidhee, nor praying behind a Jew or Christian. They are not to be greeted, nor are they to be visited, nor are they to be married, nor is their testimony accepted, nor are their sacrificed meat to be eaten.))


  2. you are not right sister.

    Forbiding evil is one of the primary responsibility of believers and we will answerable of it also.

    Shaism is one of the worst beliefs which is based on curse and mourning.

    وَالْعَصْرِ  

    إِنَّ الْإِنسَانَ لَفِي خُسْرٍ  

    إِلَّا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالْحَقِّ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالصَّبْرِ  

    103:1 By (the Token of) Time (through the ages),

    103:2 Verily Man is in loss,

    103:3 Except such as have Faith, and do righteous deeds, and (join together) in the mutual teaching of Truth, and of Patience and Constancy.

  3. Sister,

    Sunnis and Shias have a different set of pillars of Islam and Hadiths. The only thing we both agree on is the Quran, Allah being the only God, and Muhammad being the messenger. Further than that, differences vary from minute to very distinct.

  4. thats what i meant when i messaged Osama last night to convince him to stop bashing Sahih Bukhari because then Sunnis will Bash "Kafi",and then a whole war will erupt b/w us,

    sadly he didn't listen to me

    May Allah guide him,

    secondly,

    Don't u see??

    When we fight among ourselves,

    who benefits from it??

    Qadyani cults!!!

    they fool the whole world and say that pacifist Muslim(Qadyanis) are true Muslims

    We have to unite against every single enemy of Islam,

    in my view,

    Shias are not enemies of Islam

  5. No

    We have to bring the sunnis in the Right way although they are out of islam circle so in my point of view sunnism and wahabism is the nastiest part of islam which they brought a big shame for islam.

    They are Following ibless and Ibless is Happy from them.

    They are doing suicide bombing Where is suicide bombing in islam?

    They are Brutal

    Kiddnapping

    Terror

    And many more things

    And Almighty Allah is happy From Shia's not sunnis.

    And sunnis are full of bid'ah

    (in reply to Happilly Happy)

  6. salam alaykum.

    here's a hadeeth.

    a man bedoin comes to the prophet(saw) and asks about islam the prophet told him that he should believe in the oneness of Allah and that he(saw) is the last messenger. and pray 5 times daily &more if you like to and pay zaka' once in a year and other times if you like to fast in the month of ramadan and more if you like to and perform the pilgrimage to Mecca once in life time and more if you like to. the bedoin replied bu Allah i believe in Allah and you(saw) is the last messenger of Allah and i'll pray only 5 times a day not even 1 more. i'll give zaka' once a year and no other time and i'll fast in ramadaan only and perform hajj only once.

    the prophet said 'if this man is telling the truth he'll get Jannah'.

    so it's important to fulfill the obligations of islaam but we should also invite pple to good and frobid them from evil. it's very important. i don't mean that we should fight but the right thing must be conveyd to them.

  7. Aziz Unreal has the most logical and sensible of answerers......

  8. Worship of Allah is more important than anything, than any religion, than any human, than life itself.

  9. *******You will notice that it is only the very immature who engage in the sunni and shiite dialogue.********

    Wallahi brother thats the best answer I have read.


  10. religion divided into sects due,to different versions of sunnah,and hadith.

    this is the hard cold fact for you all be it shia or sunni.

    [18:103] Say, "Shall I tell you who the worst losers are?

    [18:104] "They are the ones whose works in this life are totally astray, but they think that they are doing good."

    [18:105] Such are the ones who disbelieved in the revelations of their Lord and in meeting Him. Therefore, their works are in vain; on the Day of Resurrection, they have no weight.

    [18:106] Their just requital is h**l, in return for their disbelief, and for mocking My revelations and My messengers.

    [18:107] As for those who believe and lead a righteous life, they have deserved a blissful Paradise as their abode.

    [18:108] Forever they abide therein; they will never want any other substitute.

    [18:109] Say, "If the ocean were ink for the words of my Lord, the ocean would run out, before the words of my Lord run out, even if we double the ink supply."

    [18:110] Say, "I am no more than a human like you, being inspired that your god is one god. Those who hope to meet their Lord shall work righteousness, and never worship any other god beside his Lord."

    even your shahadah is not the same ...!!!

  11. You will notice that it is only the very immature who engage in the sunni and shiite dialogue.

    Following the five pillars of Islam is the most important.

    Well said sister.

  12. Importance would be fighting the self to follow five pillars of Islam upon Ahlu Sunnah along the struggle in the path of Da'wa with wisdom and good speech.

    Edit: Yes Salaf Saliheen did make clear to us what's truth and what's false. Things went wrong when we remained in debates only and we forget ourselves to practice what we speak. We started to seek the knowledge without the Zikr of Allah (s.w.t). Our beloved Prophet (pbuh) used to seek refuge from the knowledge that's not beneficial. So were the Sahaba (R.A).  They all were more in action than what they spoke.  

    Ibn al-Qayyim al Jawzi (R.A) says ...I once attended fajr prayer with Shaykhul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (r.a), he then sat and remembered Allaah (s.w.t) until it was nearly midday. he then turned around and said to me, 'This is my early morning meal, if I do not take this breakfast, my strength will drop.'

    That was their strength in their struggle....

  13. Salam Alikum

    Agree with Abul Harith and Happily Happy

    Islam is not limited within the 5 pillars.

    Defending the Sunnah is more virtuous than Jihad.

  14. Could not have put it better myself. What is with all the hatred? What are you all hoping to achieve?



  15. WE R JUST MUSLIMS

    PPL THEY TALK ABOUT THIS TOPIC THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR WORLD  

  16. I thought shia had different 5 pillars?

  17. First it's not fighting dear Maria, I never expected that I'll see you using unity-fans' idioms

    Imam Ahmed answered you dear Maria

    He said that a man who (fights -according to your words) people of Bida'a is better than the one who is praying, fasting and doing I3tikaf in Masjid!

    because the second help himself only while the first protects Islam and Muslims!


  18. with all honesty here, im the prolly the harshest shia, whenever i ask my bashing questions, i hardly ever see the reguler shias answer me or agree with me, do u know why? cause their tolerant and much more repsectful and do not want to get involved,

    but look at how many of the Ahlul Fitna (Wahabis) there is posting isnults, and they think we're the bad guys? what do they expect us to do? sit there and say "oh hey, hi guys, u wanna insul accuse and lie about us? ok form a straight line os everyone can have a turn" no i dont think so

    like i said there is one of me who does the bashing, and 15-20 of the ahlul fitna (wahabis) who do their bashing

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