What is the Black sox scandel?

Question

And how many years can you be on the Hall-of-famr ballot before your name is taken off?

Thanks

Answer 1

the black sox scandal was the white sox throwing the world series over money in 1919  eight members of the Chicago franchise were banned from baseball  most notable Shoeless Joe Jackson and im not too sure but i think its 5 years but i wouldnt bet on it

Answer 2

THe Black Sox scandel was in 1919 with the Chicago White Sox, when 8 players "agreed" to throw the World Series to a lesser team so gamblers could win a lot of money.  The gamblers gave money to the players to throw the games away.  Two players however, Buck and Jackson refused to take part of it, but apparently they still attended the meetings where gamblers talked with the players.  The players agreed mainly because the commisioner Comiskey wasnt paying or treating the players fairly. IN the end the 8 were banned from MLB.

I wrote a paper on this two years ago, one of the most forgotten stories in the baseball history.

Answer 3

I think that this is the first time that I can add something to a Chipmaker tome.

His discussion and analysis of the Black Sox was fine, as was his explanation on the Hall of Fame eligibility.  He did omit one thing, however.  The Veteran's Committee.  After a player has not been elected for the full 15 years of eligibility the matter is turned over to this cronyistic group who can then put their friends in.  It really has outlived its usefulness.  It was inaugurated to right some obvious omissions like the N-groe League players.  I think that a regular player that went through 15 years of voting and was still not elected may not be Hall-worthy.

Sadly, Jim Rice may fall into that category.  I think he belongs there, but not quite enough if the electorate have in his first fourteen years of eligibility.

Answer 4

There is a movie of it..................Eight men out.

Answer 5

New York gamblers conspired to fix the outcome of the 1919 World Series in favor of the NL champion Reds over the heavily favored AL champion White Sox. Some bagmen made the arrangements, particularly getting two starting pitchers, Cicotte and Williams, in on the fix. Six other players were complicit to varying degrees; all eight were listed as permanently ineligible (colloquially known as "banned for life", though their drawing breath made no difference; the punishments stand to today) for participation in Major League Baseball near the end of the 1920 season. There was a related lawsuit for fraud which ended in acquittal, but this being Chicago, these things happen.

Key points to retain:

1. The implicated players were complicit in the fix; they knew about it. It does not matter what their on-field efforts were, earnest or otherwise.

2. The implicated players are not known to have placed wagers on the games or the Series themselves; that's a red herring. They were supposed to get direct payola from the NYC gamblers. It was not about players gambling on the games, rather their complicity and involvement.

3. Not every game was thrown. The identified fixed games were Games 1, 2, 4, and 5 -- started by either Cicotte or Williams -- and Game 8 (5-of-9 format that year), which Williams (acting alone) blew in the first inning after receiving a death threat.

Remember -- not every game was thrown. Next time a Black Sox apologist (particularly proponents of one specific player) cites Series aggregate stats as support for his position, remind him of this.

Cincinnati won, 5 games to 3.

A retired player becomes a candidate for the Hall if (a) he meets the minimum eligibility requirements and (b) passes a screening committee (I think this needs two votes from six members, but am not certain; it's not TOO rigorous, just intended to clear away the most obvious deadwood). Once on the ballot, a candidate can remain for up to 15 years, unless (a) he receives less than 5% of the return, in which case his candidacy is removed from consideration, or (b) he receives 75% or more of the return, in which case he is inducted as a member honoree and is removed from the ballot for a happy reason.