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What is the Position of Hazrat Ali ( R-A ) in Shiaism?

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What is the Position of Hazrat Ali ( R-A ) in Shiaism?

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  1. God


  2. Shias ' concept of IMAMAT is the one of the most deviated creed which generated all other deviation.

    Ali (RA) is their first imam and he hold a position which is higher than prophets,

    Following is their believes about imam ,So Ali (ra) as an Imam holds these,

    Imaamology

    1.) They believe in 12 Imaams after Rasulullaah .

    2.) First being Ali (R.A).

    3.) Last being the 12th Imaam

    4.) Who is in a Cave 'Surra - Man- Raa'.

    5.) Imaams they believe are Masoom- innocent.

    6.) They can make Halaal- Haraam and Haraam - Halaal .

    7.) They can change Deen- Sharia.

    8.) They are born of their mothers thighs.

    9.) They have the knowledge of the Unseen.

    10.) They say Imaams are higher in status than the Ambiyaa including our Nabi.

    11.) No concession regarding Wilaayah- (absolute necessary belief).

    12.) If one does not accept Imaams then one is a Kaafir.

    References:

    (1.) Usul -e - Kafi. (2.) Usul -e - Kafi. (3.) Usul -e - Kafi. (4.) Usul -e - Kafi. (5.) Usul -e - Kafi Vol 1 P225 / Kafi - Kitaabul Hujjuah. (6.) Usul -e - Kafi Vol 1 P225. (7.) Ibid. (8.) Ibid /Haqqul Yaqeen P126.(9.) Usul -e - Kafi Vol 1 P225. (10.) Ibid / Al Hukumatul - Islaamiyaa - 52 Khomeni. Hayaatul Qutoob Vol 3, P10 /Ibid Vol 2. P787. Footnote. (11.) Usul -e- Kafi Vol 2. P278. (12.) Usul -e- Kafi Vol 1. P225.

    Not down,the kufr by ANTI SUNNIS,KAFIR ( I placed a comma at right place of his Avatar)

    How he misinterpreted Ayah of QURAN !!!

  3. They consider him first Imam, who used to recieve Wahi, he is considered infallibe.

    They also believe that Omar bin Khattab attacked on Fatima RA's house. broke one of the door and she miscarried a child by name Mohsinbecause of this attack and Ali continued to do Taqiyyah.

    SubhanAllah.

    They also believe that he is mushkil kushaa.

    Edit: Yea, right!, if they do not get Wahi, why their saying is considered Hadith in shiit religion??

    Edit: Yea, right!, How come you trust them as source of your religion without Wahi? and why hadith of Prophet and Imam are combined in same books.

  4. They pray to him. http://www.estaghasa.s5.com/1.htm

    They make imaginary portraits of him to support their delusions, while making pictures of living beings is prohibited in Islam, since it leads to shirk.

    http://www.imamali.8m.com/gallery/

    The Jews touch their forheads to the Wailing wall as an act of worship. Shia'as worship Ali (R.A). They commit shirk.

    http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0bs2...

    http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00um...

    So, we can safely assume what Sina says.

  5. Answer from Shia source:

    "Ameer-ul-Momaneen Hazrat Ali ibn Abi Talib a.s. said

    "I am the purpose of Salat itself, whether at home or when traveling. I am the purpose of Saum, and the sacred anniversaries in the months of the year. I am the Lord of Resurrection and Judgment, the One who can remove the yoke that lies heavy on the people of Muhammad. I am the Gate through which all shall pass who worship God; I am His worshipper, and one created by Him. I am both the witness and the One witnessed to, the possessor of the green canopy, He Whose name is mentioned in the heavens and the earth, Who is the traveling companion of the Messenger of God throughout the heavens, for with Me is the Book and the sacred Arc. I am the One who befriended Seth, the son of Adam, the companion of Moses and Iram, and all metaphors and analogies pertain unto Me. Who indeed is there to compare with Me? For I am the heaven-sent rain that cause each blade of green to grow, the Lord of this nether realm Who brings forth the rains when all have lost their hope in its downpour. I am He Who summon the mighty lightning and cause the ocean to rise and swell, the One who speak to the sun and cause the stunning trumpet to blast forth. I am the refuge of all that have obeyed God, and verily, God is my Lord and there is no other God but He. For falsehood offers illusions, but truth give thee everlasting sovereignty"

    Khutbat-ul-Iftikhar (The Sermon of Glorification)

    Read Khutbas of Moula Ali a.s

    Khutbah At Tutunjiyyih (Sermon of The Gulf)

    Khutbah Ar Rajat (Day of Returning)

    Khutba Muarifat Al Nuraniyya

    Khutbah-As-Shiqshiqiyyah

    Khutbat-ul-Bayan

    AFTER reading all these you will know what Moula Ali a.s is as said by Himself. Director, Akhbaris don't believe Ali is Allah but they believe Allah is Ali. There is a difference between Akhbaris and Nusairis. Nusairis dont beleive that there is a creator of Imam Ali a.s. but Akhbaris Do!

    Ali is, Ba Haisiath Ism and Ba Haisiath Mansab, Al-Ilah.

    Ali is Ism Allah

    Ali is Sifath Allah

    Ali is Daleel Allah

    Ali is Sir Allah

    Ali is Yad Allah, Ain Allah, Jamb Allah, Waj Allah

    Ali is La Ilah

    Ali is La Ilaha Illallah and what not

    Ya Ali Madad "


  6. It varies from each group. They all have diff ranks for him.

  7. ALI IS THE START ALI IS THE END.

    READ QUR'AN

    لَهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الأَرْضِ وَهُوَ الْعَلِيُّ الْعَظِيمُ(الشورى(

    INVESTIGATE !

    DON'T FOLLOW IBLEES.

  8. Imam for mankind.

  9. He's dead, so what "was".

    And, he was surprisingly silent on the matter. Neither Sunnis nor Shia's have record of him eulogizing or denouncing s**+'sm, even though Shia's did exist and claimed he supported them.

    So no one knows.

    Also, next time, as people to provide proof for their claims. 'Cause in questions like this people just utter whatever the h**l that comes to their minds, knowing that they don't have to prove it.

    (My proof for what I said is that no one can bring a hadith of  Ali rejecting or  supporting s**+'sm.)

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    Well, well, well, so that's the way Wahhabis conclude. Read the Quran, it says a guess is never the truth.

    "Hadith" literally means "narrative". Imams are considered knowledgeable in regards to Islam, therefore their "narratives" are to be trusted, for Shia's.

    You people have some nerve calling Wahhabism a myth. It's real, it is intolerant, and dangerous.

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    As I said, I'm not Shia. I'm just saying that their mentality is valid.

    How come they accept it without a Wahi? The same way you trust your Imam with his interpretation of the Quran and hadiths.

    They believe Imams are knowledgeable people and interpret the Quran and the prophets hadiths the right way. That what they say is derived from and is consistent the previous teachings of Islam. That the Imams don't add anything new.

    I don't know why they are combined, but I know of a book that contains the verses moralistic verses of the Quran and the hadiths of the prophet that indicate what is haram and halal (omitting the Quranic stories about prophets and hadiths that aren't related to hara-halal stuff). As long as they don't falsely attribute the sayings, it is fine by me.

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