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What is the Y!A obsession with 2012?

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Has someone been spreading Mayan propaganda?

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  1. Every time it is like this

    I remember in late 1970's Nostradamus prediction of Nuclear war between US and USSR was cited as the cause of end of world in 1999.

    The movie  "The Man Who Saw Tomorrow" also seemed to have given popularity of this prediction and Nostradamus as a whole.

    And I waited and waited.

    We have passed that and now after 2000 we have this obsession of 2012.


  2. Y/A seems to be obsessed with 2012.  There is a lot of questions regarding it because of what people had seen in the History channel and rumors just fly.  And people would like to know the truth.  So they ask questions.

    Someone spreading Mayan propaganda?  I do not know.  But to add credibility to their claim with 2012, rumor mongers present that the Mayan calendar ends in that year.

    When I have time, I have been doing my part somehow to allay the fears of people, especially the kids.  I tell them like below of what will really happen around this time so that they can be prepared.

    You and I know that Doomsday 2012 is just a false rumor.  So we do not have to worry or be scared.  I assure you though that the world will not end in 2012 but it will end one day.  Remember that if there is a beginning, there is an end.  

    Nostradamus’ prophecy of when the world will end is far into the future, past about 3700.  This is in agreement with what I heard and learned from the Holy Spirit—that there will only be about 144,000 around AD 2200, peace reigns for a thousand years till around AD 3200, and then Satan will be released to test the descendants of the elect for about 500 years.  After that, the end will come.

    The Mayan’s Mesoamerican Long Count calendar forms the basis for a New Age belief, first forecast by Jose Arguelles, that a cataclysm will take place on or about 2012 December 21 (Wikipedia).  Mainstream Mayan scholars consider “cataclysm” or “apocalypse” as a misinterpretation for to the Mayan scribes, it literally means uncovering or revealing.

    The Long Count has 360 days in a year called “Tun”.  A “Tun” has 18 months or “unials” and each “unial” has 20 days.  Twenty (20) Tuns is a Katun and 20 Katuns is a Baktun (144,000 days or about 400 solar years).  Thirteen (13) Baktuns is a “Great Cycle” of 1,872,000 days (5,200 Tuns or about 5,125 solar years).  The Great Cycle in the proleptic Gregorian calendar started on 3114 BC August 11 (day 0.0.0.0.0) and ends on 2012 December 21 (day 13.0.0.0.0) – winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere.  The Great Cycle restarts the next day (day 0.0.0.0.0).  The representation of the Great Cycle of the Mayan Long Count calendar is as follows: (13 Baktuns.20 Katuns.20 Tuns.18 Uinals.20 days).

    In the book of Revelation, it tells us about a period of a thousand years of peace. Has this occurred already since the time of Jesus?  Not yet. That will still come. Those that give predictions of the world’s end, such as 2012 and numerous times during the past, are pseudo-preachers. Have they talked to God directly? If so, give proofs.

    But there is something that will certainly happen—and that is our physical death. This is what we should prepare for. It may come when least expected. We do not know the day and the hour. It will come like a thief in the night. So we just have to be prepared all the time. Search for the true God and when we find Him, follow His commandments and remain in Him until our last dying breath.

    This is all that we have to do. It is faith in the true God that we can take with us when we depart from this world. If we denied Him, He will deny us also before the Father in Heaven and send us to h**l. This is very scary – to live in h**l forever.  If we knew Him and loved Him and followed His commandments, then He may reward us to live with Him eternally in His kingdom in Heaven. This is the survival kit that we should have.

    Did you know that in his or her boredom, “Thanks for reading this” theorized in Yahoo Answers, Religion & Spirituality section, that 2012 is 20 + 12 = 32, the approximate age of Jesus when He was crucified and died?  I answered that when Jesus died, He was actually 32 solar years old, equivalent to 33 lunar years.  Details are in http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader88...  Is this a sign that God is warning us of the impending calamity around 2012, like the end of the Mayan’s calendar cycle?  But I repeat, 2012 is not the end of the world yet.

    The Holy Spirit also told us that beings from another planet will take only the marked good people out of this world.  I asked Him if it’s a million.  He said much less than that.  Then I asked if the number is the one mentioned in Revelation and He affirmed it.  A few weeks ago this year, 2008, as I was reading Revelation, I came across Revelation 14:3 to wit (King James Version):  ÃƒÂ¢Ã‚€ÂœAnd they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.”  ÃƒÂ¢Ã‚€ÂœRedeemed from the earth” means saved from the earth.  And there were 144,000 of them.  This must be what the Holy Spirit was referring to several years ago.  His advice to all: leave their wicked way of life and change their way of thinking.  We should come back to the true God before it’s too late.  (I read in Isaiah 55:7 this message, to wit (KJV): “Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.”)  Be good then so that we may be considered to be among the 144,000 who will be saved, and later will restart and repopulate this world.  The Holy Spirit told us to tell people about this prophecy even though they accuse us as being out of our minds.  He assured us that this will happen, similar to Noah’s prophecy of the Great Flood which took a hundred years before it was fulfilled.  The vessel that Noah used to be saved was an ark.  This time, another kind of vesssel will be used to save the elect.

      

    What is also certain to happen very soon (in about 2012 or earlier) is World War III and this is a nuclear war.  This “calamitous war” (as Nostradamus called it) will start from the Philippines, at Spratly Islands in particular.  The Spratly Islands lie on the southeast part of the South China Sea mostly near the coast of the Philippines.  The Holy Spirit told us that the Philippines is the wick of a gas lamp.  Once the wick is lit, it will be on and aglow.  He told us about this prophecy about two decades ago.  He said that the troubles in the Philippines will spread to the whole world until mankind is almost annihilated and a few will remain.  Spratly Islands are being claimed wholly by China, Taiwan and Vietnam; and partly by Malaysia, Brunei and the Philippines.  The area is considered a tinderbox, a flash point.  It is very rich in oil and gas resources, more than the reserve of Kuwait.  The high price of oil may trigger the grabbing of these islands and start the war.

    Four independent prophecies point to the certainty that this will happen.  These are Nostradamus’ prophecies to happen around this time (quatrains 6:24 and 2:62) , the 56th Chinese prophecy of Tui Bei Tu (the past 55 prophecies have already been fulfilled) found at http://www.alexchiu.com/philosophy/corp3... and Wikipedia, Revelation 9:18 of the Holy Bible, and those that the Holy Spirit revealed to us.  If you are interested in the details about these prophecies, please send me your request via email.

    After the calamitous war, we will have a new age, a spiritual awakening or enlightenment, and peace will reign for a long time.  The population would have been reduced by a third and there will be much arable land that will be available.  People will be living in planned cities and communities.  Would you like to live in a city where the land is free and you are guaranteed possession of the land for 50 years, renewable, and which you can bequeath to an heir?

    The Holy Spirit has given His prophecies and these are what will happen.  Be rest assured then that the world will not end yet.  But please, heed what He advises us to do—to change our wicked way of life and change our wrong beliefs.  Come back to the true God.

    I am just sharing with you what I heard and learned from the Holy Spirit.  The decision to believe Him or not depends upon yourself.  I am not forcing anyone to believe in what I share.  It is not my responsibility to save you or anyone, but the person’s.

    Isaiah 35:4 (KJV) states: “Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompense; he will come and save you.”

  3. Mayan calendar ends in 2012

    Sumerian text also talks of Planet X / Niburu which revolves around sun in in 3000 year cycle and causes great destruction when it comes close to sun.

    Mohther Shipton prophecy also talks of an appearance of another star which causes great chaos.

    All three together has created a fascination for 2012

    Let us wait and see if it will really come true.

    Personally I think this will be like another end of world scenario like the 1999 (Nostradamus) / 2001 (aligment of all planets) to keep people guessing and busy with something

  4. that's when some nuts think the world will end.

  5. the thing that gets me about it is the fact that there are so many coinciding events this time frame...

    of course it is all speculation, but i believe it.

    its a lot deeper than just the mayan calendar ending...if you learn even the basics about the complexities of the mayan calendar you will see there have been many "end dates" this is just the last one. after i read more about it and saw the "changes" that have taken place in just my lifetime, coinciding with other changes in the mayan calendar, its hard to ignore.

    doesn't mean the world is going to end, in fact, i think the mayans KNEW that it wasn't the end. but that maybe it will be another civilizations turn to make the new calendar and carry on in a "different" world. different in that, there will be many changes, and there will be much loss...but from that loss a new hope and a new earth with be able to flourish...this is what i hope for at least...we need change, and more than just the kind obama can give us. lol

  6. pffttt....more like whats the obsession with the Jonas brothers! have you seen the entertainment section...invaded by 12 yr olds!! its crazy.

  7. Apparently, yes.

    The Mayan calendar ends on this exact date (December 21, 2012), and although no one is sure why it's ending here, some say it's because the Mayans think this is when the world will end. The Mayans were great astronomers and were able to predict things very well, such as an accurate estimate of the solar year and of the occurrences of eclipses. Besides this, there is no hard evidence of ze end of ze world.

    In a nutshell:

    The Mayan calendar ends on December 21, 2012, possibly foreshadowing the end of the world. Then there's a bunch of theories on how the world COULD happen on this date...such as the shifting of the poles or the raising of the sea level, etc.

  8. December 12, 2012

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    To be exact and for anyone to be able to tell the time of the end of it all (what ever that is) is kind of like telling what the winning lottery ticket will be

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    In next  years Lottery drawing on the second Saturday of the second month of that year

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    See us humans are all kinds of gloom and doomer's

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    Even the Bible has a gloom and doom book in it

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    And the Bible even says

    No one knows when the end will come not even the Son of man knows Jesus

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  9. aint we gonna die in the year 2000..............oh wait

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