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What is the biggest lie about the global warming scam you have heard.?

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Here is an example. The recent cold wave sweeping across Mumbai and other parts of India could be attributed to global warming, experts said on Tuesday here at an environmental conference…

Prabhu said the cold wave that swept Maharashtra and other parts of India recently could be attributed to the phenomenon of global warming.

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  1. My personal favorite, Global warming is causing.................................... for it.........................................

    And to believe, there were actual newspapers reporting this garbage.

    http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/...


  2. What about when Al Ghore stood infront of a picture of Micheal Mann's hockey stick graph with the error bars removed and gave a 10 minute monologue of how ice core data can be used to reconstruct climate history, implying that the graph was a credible reconstruction of climate history made using ice core samples.  

    He neglected to mention that his monologue had nothing to do with the illustration he was standing in front of and gesturing at.

  3. That all the inputs, outputs, and processes are completely understood.

    Compare to the protein folding problem.  The input and output data for amino acid sequence and protein 3D structure is known EXACTLY.  And still there is no solution, even with 30,000+ solved protein structures to work with.

  4. The biggest lie: scientists are in it for the money.

  5. if it's hot out, it's global warming.

    if it's cold, it's global warming.

    what a crock of sh*t.

  6. the whole thing is a lie! Experts also say the earth is just going through a heat wave, just like in the 70s when they were worried about an ice age!

  7. I think the whole thing is an example of the "big Lie" method of politics. We will be inundated with scare stories, until everyone accepts the lie.

  8. I think trying to couch the debate in absolute terms is inaccurate on both sides.  On the AGW side of the argument, the research and data indicate that mankind is a component in global warming but the outcome remains uncertain; however, from the combined environmental, political and economic points of view, burning fossil fuels is the biggest problem we are dealing with globally anyway-and while the political debate continues on the best course of action, forces are already (and finally!) in motion to develop alternative sources of energy.  So even if the 'AGW is the cause of global warming' proponents are incorrect and mankind doesn't have a significant effect on global climate change, it isn't the sole driving force behind reduction of use of fossil fuels at this point in time.  We have to change our habits in the face of excessive consumption of finite resources regardless.  So I think a singular focus on AGW is a disservice to advancing the debate.  Whether or not that focus and the claim that climate can be controlled by mankind could be considered a 'lie' is a judgement I don't care to make.

    On the other side of the debate-the skeptics and deniers about GW/AGW, the absolutes are more egregious, though again one could debate calling all the claims 'lies.'  It's like the recent arguments here that Antarctic ice mass is increasing by using graphs and charts that show ice cover varies from year to year, which is not 'mass.'  That's a basic misunderstanding of what is going on-whether volcanic activity or other factors are or are not at the core of the issue, overall ice mass is decreasing.  Stubbornly hanging on to a claim that is obviously false and repeating it over and over again...well, I would leave it up to others to make the judgement call on whether those types of claims are lies or not, I would tend to be a little more on the charitable side of that argument and dismiss assertions of that nature as petty annoyances.

    More overt are the linguistic gymnastics employed in some arguments, most notably the Rush Limbaugh

    inspired 'consensus is not science' argument.  While one might legitimately argue that the consensus on AGW is not sufficient to take many of the actions proposed to date, much science is indeed theoretical; if you have ten scientists, and one comes up with a theory, it is incumbent upon all ten scientists to express skepticism about the theory, and begin testing it.  When and if the tests bear out the theory and the variables are understood better, more and more of the ten scientists may believe that it is indeed correct, and more tests are done to examine each of the remaining variables.  At some point, the majority of the scientists may agree that the theory is valid, and at some point one can say there is a consensus.  Therefore, consensus is indeed science; again, one could legitimately argue that the consensus is not sufficient to warrant action, but 'consensus is not science' is a blatant falsehood.  Elevating the argument to Olympic proportions by equating GW/AGW proponents with flat earthers is a complete reversal of the facts inasmuch as the people at that time who theorized that the earth was round rather than flat were the equivalent of today's researchers and the people who reject GW/AGW out of hand as an absolute falsehood are not looking at the data, research and new technology being employed to determine what is going on with our climate.  Accordingly, I would offer the opinion that accusing GW/AGW researchers and believers of being flat earthers is the biggest lie.

  9. The biggest lie about the global warming scam is that it is a scam!

  10. biggest lie?  that anthropogenic global warming exists-there is no argument that climate change happens, the lie is tht it is man made and as such we can do something about it, mostly by putting the g*y/liberal/socialists/leftistdemocrats/... politico's in charge, and allowing them to carbon tax us all to death...unfortunately a lot of people actually believe this drivel....

  11. The fact that such a high percentage of the world's climatologists, environmentalists, and geologists agree about Global Warming and humans involvement - and yet there is still such a pervasive percentage of the population who refuse to believe.

    It reminds me of the tobacco industry. The tobacco industry for decades spent a lot of money putting out misleading information in the media - which was in turn believed more then the scientific reports. It wasn't until the 1990's that the tobacco industry actually came out and agreed that tobacco smoke was addictive and harmful - and by then the damage had already been done.

  12. An Inconvenient Truth.

  13. Yeah, "warming causes cooling" is right up there for me, not so much because it couldn't be true - it could - just that it's not what they said when it was generally warming everywhere.

    But contradictions and WAG's aren't lies.

    A lie is when someone knowingly makes a false assertion.

    So, for me, the biggest lie is the Hockey Stick.

  14. That it's a scam!

  15. Everything said about Global Warming is a lie.  The ice age scar of the late 70's, was a crock, the hole in the ozone in the 80's.....gone?!?  Now Global warming in the late 90's to now....They've been saying that "within 2 years we'll all be dead"  "within a years time, the oceans will flood the coasts", etc, etc.  This has failed to happen in the extreme timelines laid out by GW fanatics.

    My personal favorite is all their "proof" it's always some offical sounding orginization that you've NEVER heard of, and all GW nuts site different ones.  "The scientific association of climate" or "the advancment of global science", or whatever else you can think of.

    Thirdly ignoring all the above, GW freaks never mention the real world benifits governments have got from scaring us into believing this hoopla.

  16. Probably the part about how Gods real...I mean clearly there is no god.

  17. "Global warming is only a political issue.  It is not a scientific issue."

    With one fell swoop, this lie attempts to negate the research of thousands of scientists and suggests political pundits are a perfectly good source of information on the subject.

  18. Most people don't know that the reason that some of the ice is melting is because there are active volcanoes under it.

  19. 'Global warming is just a massive hoax to make Al Gore money'.  

    I love that one.

  20. That we know enough about the Earth's climate to write a computer model that predicts future temperatures-- so the debate is over---

    It's the only "science" I know of that squashes competing theories-- and blacklists scientists that disagree.

    OH SORRY-- there is one other-- "Astronomy",  during Galileo's  time--- it also squashed the belief and excommunicated people for believing that the Earth might not be the center of the universe.

  21. The biggest lie...other than polar bears drowning (lol!!), is that it's still happening.

    Global warming ended in 1998, with no help from us.

  22. Regarding your question of: "What is the biggest lie about the global warming scam you have heard.?"...

    It's kinda hard to classifiy lies. A lie is a lie and one lie always leads to another and then another. Eventually, one gets caught lying and is exposed for the liar that they are not to mention many of their previous lies are then revealed.

    That is happening now. As more time goes by, there is more and more proof being shown that man made g/w is a lie created by liars that are only in it to make money.

  23. GLOBAL WARMING IS A MYTH. Anyone with a single functioning brain cell can tell that.

  24. That it's not real or not caused mostly by us.

    EVERY major scientific organization has issued an official statement that this is real, and mostly caused by us.  The National Academy of Sciences, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the American Institute of Physics, the American Chemical Society, the American Geophysical Union, the American Meteorological Association, etc.

    EDIT - The "Oregon Petition" is a well known fraud.  It was designed to look like an official communication from the National Academy of Sciences.  It's just a list of names, with no information, even whether or not they're a scientist.  Efforts to verify the list have been futile, although some names are clearly false (famous rock stars?).

    Note that there are a (very) few skeptical scientists.  There are also scientists who say the Earth is 6000 years old, or that NASA faked the Moon landings.  But this is still the truth:

    "The fact that the community overwhelmingly supports the consensus is evidenced by picking up any copy of Journal of Climate or similar, any scientific program at the meetings, or simply going to talk to scientists. I challenge you, if you think there is some un-reported division, show me the hundreds of abstracts that support your view - you won't be able to. You can argue whether the consensus is correct, or what it really implies, but you can't credibly argue it doesn't exist."

    NASA's Gavin Schmidt

  25. That some how in less that 200 years of industrialization mankind is completely or mostly to blame for global warming, just how conceited and ignorant can these folks be? The earth is over 4.5 Billion years old and had gone thru far worse climatic changes than mankind can ever imagine and yet somehow WE are destroying the earth.

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