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What is the chances that I will get caught If I don't buy a train ticket on my local light rail network.?

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It is only a mile one way. The fair is £1.80 return BUT the fine for travelling without a ticket is £20. There NEVER seems to be any inspectors on the route I use (I am only on the train for ONE stop) I make this journey 5 times a week which is £9. That is a masisive £468 a year. What would you do. Cheers. And before anyone posts comments like. You b+stard HOW DARE YOU. etc etc etc. Imagine if that was the worst thing that happened in the world. Cheers.

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  1. The chances are, the stations you used are equipped with CCTV, and the train or tram may have it is well.

    They authorities could compile a case of fraud against you, and you could face a hefty fine, prison and a criminal record (good for your career?).

    All for the sake of £1.80.

    Besides, stealing (for that's what it is) is immoral and wrong.

    Don't lower yourself to that level.


  2. Good chance of evading if you wear long false black beard and sunglasses, at night you`ll look dangerous and nobody

    will approach you.

  3. You b astard, How dare you, if everyone was so irresponsible where would the Country be....pay up you tight git.

  4. The chances of you getting caught are inversely propotional to  you having the ticket....

  5. chances are the first time you don't buy a ticket the inspector will be there.

  6. Train prices are extorshinate, absolutely ridiculous!! i say DO IT! as long as there arent any gates that you have to put the ticket through at the stop. Just hide in the loo's if there is a inspector, they never knock and ask!! x x x

    Live dangerously and save money whilst doing it!! x

  7. Continue unitil caught, still you could save more.

  8. To be fair mate, if you can get away with it, then do it...

    BUT... the £20 fine aint the worst of it.... If they suspect you do it regularly they can and will check stations CCTV and do you for full fare evading which carries imprisonment and a huge fine as a consequence!

  9. Whilst I dont condone it,and certainly would`nt do it myself. Its no different to people who drive with no Insurance etc. and get fined a few measly quid. It seems to me theyre on a winner,until the law wakes up.

  10. You got a 50-50 chance.

  11. 50% each start way but bad way!  ÃƒÂ‚£20 minus  ÃƒÂ‚£1.80

    £1.80=£468

    £20 =£5200

  12. Remember what you said, SEEM.  Its a very good chance with terrorism and all.

  13. i never buy a ticket unless im asked buy the inspector, i can get away with it most times. these days i go by car.

    1 mile? why dont you walk?

  14. I guess its all down to your conscience.  I certainly have travelled without my ticket being checked however thats not to say I didnt have one if asked.  I guess its all down to honesty isnt it really.  If you owned a buisness and everyone or certianly a number of people decided to take advantage etc you wouldnt be too impressed.

    In some way you can look at it as theft...in fact...thats really what it is isnt it?

  15. If an inspector comes  "search" your pockets until you get to your destination!

    If he gives you a fine, give a fake name and address. All you have to do is say that you have no ID on you, and he can't prove or disprove who you are.

    Another way is by saying you had to rush onto the train, so didnt have time to buy the ticket, and buy one off him.

  16. Just go for it if you want a bit of adventure, get away with it for six months and save £200+.  Good luck.

    But what will happen is that each unpaid journey will become harder and harder, because you know the odds of getting caught is becoming lesser and lesser and possibly the punishment dealt out greater and greater, until you'll feel sick taking another chance and eventually you'll lose your cool completely and you'll become a law abiding citizen like the rest of the gerbils.

  17. Think what would happen to your train service if more selfish dishonest people like you did not pay.................

    Yes you would lose it, but that probably doesn't bother you does it ?

  18. Just don't wear a heavy padded jeans jacket, however cold it is.

  19. PAY YOUR FARES LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!

    BY THE WAY THEY DON'T ALWAYS FINE YOU IF YOU GET CAUGHT, SOMETIMES THEY TAKE STRAIGHT TO COURT. HAPPENED TO MY BOYFRIEND, ENDED UP PAYING OVER £100, SO IT'S NOT WORTH THE RISK IS IT REALLY!

  20. Hmmmm on our local rail you can buy your ticket on the train off the inspector, if he doesnt get round to checking your ticket its not your fault, you just got a free ride

  21. Just risk it. If you get stopped say that you were in a rush and the inspector will probably just charge you the standard fare. I used to do it all the time.

  22. If you get caught say that you lost the ticket.

  23. I would just pay the fare as you will not know when an inspector will turn up. Also remember that the drivers/guard can ask for a ticket at any point and have the power to arrest you (like the rest of us rail employees) if you do not have a ticket.

    Also remember that a ticket is your insurance, so if you are taken ill on the light railway (or mainline railway) you do not have to pay for the costs to get an ambulance  to where the train is, otherwise if you do not have a ticket and you are taken ill you have to pay, and it would be in the £1000 mark!

    SO Just pay, it better & if anything was to happen you would not get a criminal record or have to pay extra bills!

  24. going to agree with joolz on that one but some of the suggestions in this thread are ridicoulous

    1. search your pockets- this is whats known as the money jig we know you ain't got no money as soon as you start doing that so there's no way were going to be leninet with you

    2. Fake your name and address - Nowadays we have police back up who can easily trace anmes and address without id's

    3. risk it till you get caught - fair point but as joolz says the penalty starts at £20 but then can esculate to Thousands of pounds and even imprisionment

    4: say you were in a rush : this is normaly plausable however we can remember faces and some of us can just be plain evil and say you could have broughtyour ticket and then got the next one!

    Basically it's up to if you are that desperate to save £1.80 do it i would say the risk of getting caught is small especially if you only go one stop but there's still a risk

  25. You have a 30-70 chance if the CTI catches you...it's serious.

  26. Well, sounds like trouble.

    In California on CalTrain, they check about 5% of passengers, but if they CATCH you they WILL prosecute.

    Oh, and alot of PAYING riders will notice those who ARE cheating and point them out to conductors / inspectors.  I know I DO !!

  27. Ask Cherie Blair.

  28. please they never check for tickets nowadays

  29. high, buy a ticket and save yourself the trouble

  30. When my other half was based in Frimley, I used to travel to see him straight from work on a Fri so by the time I got to the station, the train would just be leaving so I would jump on it and forget to buy a ticket and if there was an inspector on the train, I would buy a ticket then but to be honest, most of those trips, nearly every weekend, cost me nothing! I would have to buy an underground ticket to get through the barriers but that was it! Although, this was a while ago, so not sure how strict they are now! Just try it and if someone says anything, feign innocence and buy one there and then! Although, I have heard that a yearly ticket is cheaper.

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