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What is the difference between ju jutsu, pankration and submission wrestling and which do you prefer?

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What is the difference between ju jutsu, pankration and submission wrestling and which do you prefer?

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  1. Well there is many diffrences between ju justu,pankration, and submission wrestling.

    Ju justu is just Many submisson techniques that require flexibility,and persision.  pank and sub envole manly grapple throws then the tap.


  2. Jujutsu teaches how to off balance the opponent and use his force against him. It is "Helping" the opponent to fall so to speak. This will make more sense to you when you get a little more advanced in the training.

    Pankration is basically wrestling but it is a little more hard edged, with fighting tactics that cannot be used in average wrestling. It is a war-oriented fighting method after all.

    Submission wrestling is just that, it teaches you how to wrestle the opponent into submission.

    They are all just different methods of grappling, with each method having a different goal in mind, it depends on what you want to do to the opponent.  When you look past the names and learn the methods thoroughly enough to master the technique, then it's nothing more than just "grappling".

    As far as preferation goes, why not learn them all if the methods work.

  3. Adding to what RDF said, and sumarizing some of what he said;

    Jiu Jitsu aims to grapple while minimizing the use of raw power as much as possible.

    Pankration aims to use effective combinations of grappling and striking in ways now long forgotten, or mostly forgotten, and not seen in modern MMA.  There are ways to grapple and strike at the same time more effective than in MMA, and that is what Pankration basically is.  Whereas in regular MMA strikes and grappling work separately, in Pankration, I believe, a strike can flow directly into a throw, or a throw can flow directly into a strike, making Pankration actually far more effective than MMA.  In MMA, you throw a jab, for example, to set up a double leg takedown, but the moves do not flow together.  In Pankration, the same technique that is a strike is also a throw or takedown, therein lies the difference and why the sport can actually be more brutal than MMA.  Do not forget how smart the ancient Greeks were; they laid the foundation for, well, pretty much the modern culture of the entire world, and modern education.  That same brain power they used for that, they used for Pankration.

    Pankration was revived, mostly from using styles of wrestling still practiced in Greece, even unto modern times, and old, Greek style boxing, which is actually a little bit different from the one we know.  The sport however is so brutal, its practitioners have only come out of hiding in recent years but still much of their skill was questionable at best, no one really knows for sure how the old sport was practiced outside a few oral traditions handed down here and there.  Also a Pankratist has yet to show his face in MMA circles and prove the style's mettle.

    Submission wrestling, is basically catch wrestling with Jiu Jitsu and Judo locks.  Wrestled from grade school through college, and made it into the olympics even?  Hold a black belt in Judo, specifically Kosen Judo?  Then, odds are, you already know "submission wrestling."  Although personally I think its a misnomer because all it really is, is catch with BJJ locks.  That's really all it is.

    I hope my adenum to what RDF said helped.

    As to what I would personally prefer, if I could take a time machine and learn it, ancient Greek authentic Pankration, although personally I don't know how I'd handle wrestling naked against another naked guy...... because that is how it was practiced in ancient Greece you know.

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