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What is the evidence that directly links man to man made global warming?

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besides the fact that Co2 has been going up during mans time (which seems very circumstantial to me) who is to say that man makes more Co2 than the earth.

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  1. Man doesn't need to produce "more CO2 than earth", he just needs to upset the balance in the carbon cycle that the earth had going in the past.  

    We've burned a lot of coal over the past 150 years plus close to half of the known oil reserves, and our emission rate is increasing.  Eventually the earth ran out of capacity to absorb the excess and both greenhouse gas levels and temperature began to rise.  The little bit that we add each year has added up to a harmful amount over time.

    Both Mars and Venus offer proof of greenhouse gas warming.  CO2 levels have been accurately measured for about 50 years.  Man's contribution to the CO2 in the air has been directly measured through isotopes, which identify where the CO2 came from.  Another proof point are the past climate changes that involved greenhouse gasses (especially CO2 and methane).

    All of that is easily looked up on the Internet, and has been presented here every few days for the past several weeks.  

    No one here has offered any alternative theory that explains Venus and Mars (proof points for greenhouse gas theory) which also justifies why the Earth should be magically exempt from the laws of physics.  (Actually there was one attempt recently but it conveniently ignored Venus, as the measured temperatures of Venus and Mars would suddenly be unexplained under that alternate theory.)


  2. Well, despite the tone, your question is a vlalid one.

    irst, as you point out, we know the CO2 content is increasing. Second (thugh this is not a part of your question) scientists have tested a wide rang of other possible causes and shown they do not account for our current global warming.

    Now, it's true that the  Earth''s ssytems--geologic and biological--produce certain quantities of CO2  We also know other parts of those same systems absorb or otherwise eliminate CO2 from the atmosphere.

    Skipping the details, what scientists have done is to analyze all the natrual sources o fCO2 to see if any have increased the rate at wich CO2 is naturally produced. And the answer is, in a word, nno, they have not.

    Next, they examined the mechanisms by which CO2 is remved from the atmosphere--looking for changes.

    And found only ONE change:  a significant decrease in the amount of forest cover (trees).  but the cause of that isn't open to dispute--deforestation is the direct result of human activity.

    Now, obviously, all hthis is a lot more complicated to do than I''ve described.  But that's the general idea.  But we're not done.

    Next, scientists looked for possible NEW sources of CO2--and of course, that's where the burning of fossil fuels comes in.

    It is critical to understand tha tthe composition of the atmosphere is normally in an equiblirium state--that is, it normally is balanced, with CO2 being absorbed about as fast as it is produced.  An anology is a see-saw, with a person at each iend.  If the see-saw is balenced, it stays horizontal.  But, even a small weight added to one end can throw the balance completely off.

    That's what we have here.  Two factors have changed in the past century or two: deforestation (human origin) andthe widespread use of fossil fuels.  Both tend to result in increased CO2 in the atmosphere--and, although the bulk of CO2 is still natural in origin--the balance has been thrown off.  That results in some fairly small changes in the earth's average temperature (about 1 degree C so far).  But tha tsmall amount is enough to throw other systems tha twere in equiblibrium out of balance--most noticably so far, the rate of ice formation and melting.

  3. There are many basic scientific facts which can only be explained if the current global warming is being caused by an increased greenhouse effect due to carbon dioxide accumulating in the atmosphere from humans burning fossil fuels.

    For example, the planet is warming as much or more during the night than day.  If the warming were due to the Sun, the planet should warm a lot more during the day when the Sun has influence.  Greenhouse gases trap heat all the time, so they warm the planet regardless of time of day.  Another example is that the upper atmosphere is cooling because the greenhouse gases trap the heat in the lower atmosphere.  If warming were due to the Sun, it would be warming all layers of the atmosphere.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

    We know it's warming, and we've measured how much:

    http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science...

    Scientists have a good idea how the Sun and the Earth's natural cycles and volcanoes and all those natural effects change the global climate, so they've gone back and checked to see if they could be responsible for the current global warming.  What they found is:

    Over the past 30 years, all solar effects on the global climate have been in the direction of (slight) cooling, not warming.  This is during a very rapid period of global warming.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/62902...

    http://www.pubs.royalsoc.ac.uk/media/pro...

    So the Sun certainly isn't a large factor in the current warming.  They've also looked at natural cycles, and found that we should be in the middle of a cooling period right now.

    "An often-cited 1980 study by Imbrie and Imbrie determined that 'Ignoring anthropogenic and other possible sources of variation acting at frequencies higher than one cycle per 19,000 years, this model predicts that the long-term cooling trend which began some 6,000 years ago will continue for the next 23,000 years.'"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitc...

    http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/ab...

    So it's definitely not the Earth's natural cycles.  They looked at volcanoes, and found that

    a) volcanoes cause more global cooling than warming, because the particles they emit block sunlight

    b) humans emit over 150 times more CO2 than volcanoes annually

    http://volcano.und.edu/vwdocs/Gases/man....

    So it's certainly not due to volcanoes.  Then they looked at human greenhouse gas emissions.  We know how much atmospheric CO2 concentrations have increased over the past 50 years:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mauna...

    And we know from isotope ratios that this increase is due entirely to human emissions from burning fossil fuels.  We know how much of a greenhouse effect these gases like carbon dioxide have, and the increase we've seen is enough to have caused almost all of the warming we've seen over the past 30 years (about 80-90%).  You can see a model of the various factors over the past century here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Clima...

    This is enough evidence to convince almost all climate scientists that humans are the primary cause of the current global warming.

  4. Not much.  It's only the string of logic that states man caused co2, co2 is a ghg, man causes warming.

    All known alternatives have been studied and ruled out as the cause.  However, there are still all the unknowns that are unaccounted for.

    No one knows if it will be warmer or colder 5 years from now any better than a coin toss.

  5. The AGW theory is that since the rate of change (Increasing) of CO2 seems to correlate with the change in Temperature, it is the CO2 causing it.

    Many scientists say they do not agree it is the CO2, for various reasons.

  6. there is no evidence at al get global warming the big swindel and youll see for your self

  7. Here is a small article written and reviewed by 551 Climatolgists world wide. There is a group of 36 scientists in the worl that are not coauthors because they believed that the paper's 90% certainty level was too high. No real scientist that uses his own name thinks that it definitely not related to human activity, they just think that the odds are less than 90%. Remember the theory of atoms in molecules is still just a theory after 4000 years.  http://www.chemistry.mcmaster.ca/aim/aim... We really do not have that long to get to certainty. 90% certainty means a 10% chance of not destroying all life in the Solar System.

    The IPCC Working Group I Report: Climate Change 2007-The Physical Science Basis

    Reviewed by Diana Liverman

    With the publication of the Fourth Assessment report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), this year marks some important shifts in our understanding of climate change and its impacts. Three working groups produced reports covering physical science (WGI); impacts, adaptation, and vulnerability (WGII); and mitigation (WGIII). The WGI report on physical science involved more than 550 authors and published a summary for policymakers in February, followed by the full report in May after a long process of review by experts and government departments around the world. The reports have been widely discussed in scientific meetings and will become a major reference source, especially since all the reports are freely available on the Internet.1 The WGI report was published first and attracted considerable media attention because of its apparently definitive conclusions about the rate and causes of climate change.

    Perhaps the most emphatic conclusion of the WGI report is that "warming of the climate system is unequivocal" and that much (50 percent) of this warming is very likely (more than 90 percent) due to increases in greenhouse gas concentrations associated with human activity. These statements are much more confident than those in the 2001 IPCC report and may seem unsurprising to those who regularly read the scientific literature. But for many people who are not climate science experts, some of the important incremental shifts in the understanding of climate change are less obvious, especially as the issue has been confused by the sustained media and political attention to climate skeptics.

    WGI reports strong evidence that our climate is already changing, including significant increases in global surface temperature of 0.74°C (+/-0.18) over the past century; more frequent heat waves and heavy rainfall events; warming of the ocean to a depth of 3,000 meters (m); increases in atmospheric water content; and declines in mountain glaciers, snow cover, and Arctic sea ice. IPCC also concludes that global average sea level has increased 1.8 millimeters (mm) (+/-0.5) per year since 1961 (and 3.1 mm per year since 1993), there has been an increase in the most intense tropical cyclone activity (but not the number of overall hurricanes) in the North Atlantic, and these changes are more likely than not (at least 50 percent) associated with human causes. The assessment of research on past climates concludes that it is likely that the second half of the twentieth century was warmer than any period in the last 1,300 years. Table 1 on page 29 provides a summary of these and other trends.

    The report concludes that anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions are still growing despite 15 years of international negotiations under the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change. The net effect on the Earth's energy balance (the radiative forcing) is clearly communicated in a graphic showing that although methane, nitrous oxide, and halocarbons have high global warming potentials, and aerosols have a cooling effect, the magnitude and long lifetime of carbon dioxide makes it by far the most significant anthropogenic greenhouse gas (see Figure 1 on page 30). This makes it all the more worrying that overall carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuels increased from 6.4 gigatons per year (+/-0.4) in the 1990s to more than 7.2 gigatons per year (+/-0.3) since 2000, and concentrations are now 379 parts per million (a 35 percent increase over preindustrial levels and higher than in, at the least, any of the previous 650,000 years).

    This trend is toward the higher emission scenarios used in the simulation models of future changes in climate, where, for example, the fossil-intensive economic growth scenario (SRES A1F1) simulations project a best estimate of 4°C global average surface warming by 2090-2099 compared to the 1980-1999 average. The low end (B1) scenario has a best estimate of 1.8°C, and the report reminds us that even if we stabilized emissions at 2000 levels, the world would continue to warm because of the slow response of oceans and ice sheets. This insight, together with the conclusion that warming over the continents between now and 2030 is the same in distribution no matter which scenario is used, highlights the need for adaptation and for strategies to manage the carbon cycle over the much longer term.

    The media reported some controversy over the sea-level rise projections, which appear at first glance to be lower than those in the 2001 report. Ranging from 0.18 m to 0.59 m by the 2090-2099 period, depending on the scenario, the range is narrower because the 2001 report projected for the end of the decade in 2100 and because the methodology of the Fourth Assessment gives uncertainties spanning the 5 to 95 percent probability rather than the +/-2 standard deviations used in the Third Assessment in 2001. Additionally, WGI decided not to include some key feedbacks because of uncertainty and a lack of published literature. (For example, it did not include the possibility of rapidly melting Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets, which would bring much higher sea levels.) The WGI report projects a new insight into ocean chemistry of major significance to ecosystems and policy: increased acidification of the oceans as a result of high CO2 concentrations, with reductions in ocean surface pH of between 0.14 and 0.35 units by the end of the twenty-first century. This may have adverse effects on calcifying species, such as corals, and on phytoplankton, and such chemical changes must be accounted for by mitigation technologies.

    The Fourth Assessment was able to take advantage of a much larger number of climate models and simulations than previous assessments, including multiple runs (ensembles) that reflect a range of uncertainties about initial conditions, processes, and emissions or other forcings. While policymakers and the public hope that this increased modeling effort will provide more certain projections, it may in actuality increase uncertainty, but with much better understanding and quantification. The climate sensitivity (the equilibrium response to an equivalent doubling of carbon dioxide concentrations over preindustrial levels) is more confidently quantified than in previous assessments, in the range of 2°C to 4.5°C with a most likely value of 3°C, but the report states that values much higher than 4.5°C can not be excluded.

    For most of the world's people and ecosystems, the real test of the IPCC is its ability to provide improved projections of how climate will change at the regional level, and here the Fourth Assessment provides less guidance than those concerned with impacts or adaptation might hope for. As noted in previous IPCC reports, the poles are projected to warm more than the equator, and the land more than the oceans. Snow cover and sea ice are projected to decrease and permafrost to thaw. Overall global precipitation is considered very likely to increase at high latitudes, especially in North America and Northern Asia (most models project a 10 percent increase), and likely to decrease in subtropical land regions such as southern Europe and southern Africa. However, over large areas of Latin America, Africa, Asia, and Australia, the climate models could not agree whether precipitation would increase or decrease.

    The full report and its technical summary elaborates on the challenges of simulating regional climates, highlighting the difficulties of modeling interannual variability (such as El Niño), extreme weather, and topographical controls. Those interested in assessment for specific regions should turn to Chapter 11 of the full report, which provides a useful region-by-region discussion of key processes, model skill, and projections.

    The WGI summary for policymakers is quite cautious in discussing the likelihood of rapid and nonlinear climate change, concluding, for example, that it is unlikely that the Atlantic Ocean circulation will change abruptly or that the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets will collapse before the end of the twenty-first century. There is also limited mention of other possible instabilities such as rapid shifts in the monsoon, drying of the Amazon, or release of methane from permafrost regions.2

    The most extensive criticisms and evaluations of the WGI report have so far emerged on Web sites devoted to climate change research and policy and range from unsubstantiated allegations of bias to carefully referenced examinations of key assumptions and results. Some suggest that the report is too cautious, especially in terms of sea-level rise or the likelihood of rapid warming and positive feedbacks such as those associated with the release of methane from thawing permafrost. Others have criticized the process as politicized because of the involvement of governments.3 A whole host of scientific papers have emerged that already date the report,4 a handicap of the IPCC that required all research cited in the Fourth Assessment to be published by the end of 2005.

    By almost any measure, the IPCC Fourth Assessment WGI report is a tremendous achievement, analyzing hundreds of research papers in crisp, readable language with excellent graphics in the summary as well as the full report. In addition, each chapter of the full report includes a group of frequently asked questions (all brought together in an annex), which are especially useful in highlighting key points and uncertainties.

    At one level, the environmental science and policy implications are clear-if we do not manage the concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, the planet will continue to warm, bringing significant changes to climates and oceans. But many details are still uncertain, most notably the likely changes in regional climate and the probabilities of climate discontinuities and carbon cycle feedbacks. The report provides little guidance on the climatic effects of different mitigation scenarios and associated emissions trajectories, making no assessment, for example, of the viability of the European Union's 2°C stabilization target.5

    Thus two key uncertainties that lie at the heart of the international response to climate change-what level of mitigation and emissions are needed to avoid dangerous climate change and what are the likely regional climates to which we need to adapt-are not resolved in this Fourth Assessment report. At the same time, the higher levels of confidence and certainty about the links between emissions and observed changes and the projections of significant changes in temperature, precipitation, and extreme events have been a wake-up call to many governments and communities that are now prepared to act on climate change. In the United States, opinion is shifting toward more action on climate change, especially in states such as California, which has promised to reduce its emissions by 80 percent by 2050. The increasing role of scientists from China and other key developing countries within the IPCC is also contributing to greater acceptance of the physical science by policymakers in those countries. China has committed to a 25 percent reduction in energy intensity; notably, the co-chairs of WGI are Susan Solomon (from the United States) and Dahe Qin (from China).

    In the United Kingdom, the government has made commitments to cut greenhouse gases by 60 percent and to invest in adaptation for U.K. regions as well as developing regions receiving foreign assistance.6 Yet some claim that avoiding dangerous climate change requires a 90 percent cut in emissions, and there are high levels of uncertainty in terms of how precipitation will change in the United Kingdom and across much of the tropics. When local authorities or development charities ask how climate will change in their regions, especially whether they should plan for more or less rainfall, it is still very hard to provide an answer. Of course, as WGII argues, one response is to focus on reducing vulnerabilities and increasing resilience to changes in either direction, but it remains an unsatisfactory response to those who believe that the science of climate change is now clear.

    At the IPCC WGI report launch in London in March 2007, a government minister and a former energy company CEO were both overheard saying that the debate over the science of climate change was over and that the momentum now needed to move to research and action on mitigation and adaptation. Yet the Fourth Assessment report still has many unanswered questions and uncertainties, and although there is less debate about whether climate change is occurring, the arguments are now moving to when, where, and how the changes are going to occur. Exhausted authors can barely imagine going through the process again in five years, but in fact discussions about the Fifth Assessment have already begun. The IPCC assessment is a Herculean process, and authors deserve a global vote of thanks for the most grueling literature review one can imagine.

    [Sidebar]

    The environmental science and policy implications are clear-if we do not manage the concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, the planet will continue to warm, bringing significant changes to climates and oceans.

    [Footnote]

    NOTES

    1.Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), Climate Change 2007: The Physical Science Basis. Contribution of Working Group I to the Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (Cambridge, U.K., and New York, NY: Cambridge University Press, 2007), http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/ wg1-report.html.

    2. See H. J. Schellnhuber, W. Cramer, N. Nakícenovíc, T. Wigley, and G. Yohe, eds., Avoiding Dangerous Climate Change (Cambridge, U.K., and New York: Cambridge University Press, 2006).

    3. See, for example, Prometheus: The Science Policy Weblog, http://sciencepolicy .colorado.edu/prometheus; and RealClimate: Climate Science from Climate Scientists, http://www.realclimate.org.

    4. Some examples include S. Rahmstorf, "A Semi-Empirical Approach to Projecting Future Sea-Level Rise," Science 315, no. 5810 (19 January 2007): 368-70 (higher sea-level rise); F. J. Wentz, L. Ricciardulli, K. Hilburn, and C. Mears, "How Much More Rain Will Global Warming Bring?" Science 317, no. 5835 (13 July 2007): 233-35 (revised precipitation change estimates); C. Le Quéré et al., "Saturation of the Southern Ocean CO2 Sink Due to Recent Climate Change," Science 316, no. 5832 (22 June 2007): 1735 (revised ocean carbon uptake); and E. Pennisi, J. Smith, and R. Stone, "Momentous Changes at the Poles," Science 315, no. 5818 (16 March 2007): 1513 (accelerated polar ice sheet melting).

    5. A brief section at the end of Chapter 10 of The Physical Basis of Climate Change (IPCC, note 1 above, page 827) discusses an idealized stabilization scenario for 2150 and summarizes a small number of studies, including work that estimates the risk of overshooting 2°C as 68-99 percent for 500 parts per million stabilization (M. Meinshausen, "What Does a 2°C Target Mean for Greenhouse Gas Concentrations? A Brief Analysis Based on Multi-Gas Emission Pathways and Several Climate Sensitivity Uncertainty Estimates," in Schellnhuber, Cramer, Nakícenovíc, Wigley, and Yohe, note 2 above, pages 265-79).

    6. For the U.K. commitment to cut greenhouse gases by 60 percent, see U.K. Government, Draft Climate Change Bill, http://www.official-documents.gov.uk/ document/cm70/7040/7040.asp. For a description of actions on adaptation, see the U.K. Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra), Action in the UK-Adapting to Climate Change, http://www.defra.gov.uk/environment/ climatechange/uk/adapt/index.htm.

    [Author Affiliation]

    Diana Liverman is the director of the Environmental Change Institute and university chair of Environmental Science in the Oxford University Centre for the Environment. She is a program leader for research on post-2012 climate policy for the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research. She can be reached via e-mail at diana.liverman@eci.ox.ac.uk.

  8. I think everybodys  answers above this point are  full of it, it being camel do do. I think c o 2 is caused by too many camels in down town Baghdad on any given Muslim holy day. the only real proof is Al Bore advocating the sky is falling. he couldn't sale the planet was freezing so now we're gonna burn up, pleezzzzz gemme a break

  9. You might try renting a copy of An Inconvenient Truth or if the video store doesn't have a copy, rent some old Three Stooges movies.  Both are equally good at explaining Global Warming.

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