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What is the "Bangsamoro incident" in the Philippiness?

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I was wondering if you can tell me the meaning and how it is like in Indonesia...

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  1. Ones the Bangsamoro where a majority in Mindanao. But with the Native American persecution as an example the North of the Philippines, backed by American colonisators persueded poor farmers from the Bisaya's and Luzon to migrate to the south. This happened around the changing from the 19th till the 20th century and continued until the seventees or in same way up to now. After about 50 years they were a minority.The term Bangsamoro is interpreted differently by everyone, some calling them the natives including the Lumad's who never converted to islam, other's only the muslims. Others even include the christians who agree with the muslims stance.

    After decades of persecution and losing territory the Bangsamoro didn't take it anymore., formed groups who themselves had disputes amonst each other and a complicating civil war broke out.

    In the seventees one group, if i'm not mistaken the only group by than (MNLF) made a deal with the Marcos and they would have some authority (Autonomous region of muslim Mindanao). However the Philippine government wanted them to fail ofcourse and with all kinds of backstabbing and under the table kicking the slowed the proces. the leaders of the ARMM where no goodies also and where either corrupt or found out that ruling is not as easy as it might seem. The ARMM struggles until now and as a lot of Bangsamoro never agreed with the 1970's pacts in the first place things haven't changed much since than.


  2. you mean the BJE bangsamoro judicial entity?

    are you filipino? if you are not im presuming your not then its the separation of the mindanao ancestral domain from the country philippines.no idea on indonesia. But imagine n.korea and s.korea then theres n.vietnam from s.vietnam, Mindanao is an ancestral land, meaning before all that colonizing by japanese and spaniards mindanao has long been a civilized land w/ laws subjected to their islamic ways or the koran, judicial because it governs a law from UN humanists rights that people w/ ancestral uh entities have the right to thier territory and that the phil government has signed an agreement during the 70's peace talk during pres.marcos time but was forgotten over time, thats why theirs sprouting rebels namely the MILF in the south, w/ this  agreement thier are rights to land boundaries and an extra 15 km from phil sea, and airborne boundaries too.

    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerhea...

    a full recap.

  3. This is the sad thing about this situation.  These so called Muslim "Freedom Fighters" are fighting amongst themselves for power and control of the lands.  The same thing what is happening in the Palestinian territory, the PLO versus Hamas.  It is like a pack of hungry wolves fighting over a piece of meat.  That is why you see a lot of break away Muslim rebel groups in the Philippines.  There used to be one group, the MNLF, then MILF broke away and so on, which finally produced the Abu Sayaf.  I guess it is a general Filipino trait.  You see this in Philippine politics.  Politicians create their own party to pursue their personal ambitions.  Like President Arroyo used to be a member of Lakas CMD Party, now she formed her own party and so with others.  Filipinos in general whether Christian, Muslim or Lumad are fractious.  We tend to help ourselves first before others or the nation.  This is evident during the pre-Spanish period.  We still think of ourselves as a "Barangay" or a separate village than a nation.

    And by the way, I would not compare the Bangsamoro with the Native Americans.  The real natives of Mindanao are the Lumads or the indigenous tribes of the Philippines who have long been in the archipelago before the arrival of Islam in the 12th century.  Take note, the Hindu Empire of Sri Vijaya in Indonesia ruled parts of the Philippines.  In fact the name Visayas (central Philippines) was derived from that empire.  If you go to Bali, Indonesia you would still see remnants of that Hindu empire.  

    Read this article

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srivijaya

    If there was a group of people that deserved a homeland, it should be the Lumads.  They have fought countless battles, from neighboring Malay invaders, Muslims, Spaniards, Americans, Japanese and even unscrupulous Filipinos who fooled them giving up their ancestral lands.  Think about it, Islam and Christianity are "foreign" religions.  We should know our history well to understand the real facts.

  4. The milf wants to expand their territorial domain which would include those provinces in dispute(north cotabato, zamboanga and iligan among others) that was not included in current armm region. they claimed its part of ancestral domain and must include in their territory for the new bangsamora juridical entity that they're trying to put up w/c would make them an independent state within a state of the republic of the Philippines.

    With the signing of the flawed agreement that would legitimize their claim was hindered by the supreme court , some renegade milf launch strikes on north cotabato region. idk about indonesia.

    milfs are terrorist and government should not negotiate with them. president arroyo should fire all the negotiation panel who came up with these stupid agreement w/o consulting the people that would be affected. geez, how dumber can they be.

    A federal state could be an answer to peace in mindanao but pres. gma should not hand the power to milf but rather to the current armm leadership. She should have massive offensive to these milf, called all current armm governing parties and established the federal system.

  5.        The proposed State of the Muslims of the south based on th history.

       But the history also telling us that the Pilipinos and peole  from luzon visayas mindanao and North Borneo has strong connection even before the arrival of Spanish.

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