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What is the real threat to America and western nations?

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Ever since the iron curtain fell, criminals have been pouring out of the countries of the former soviet union, to plunder and infect the rest of the world with their criminal minds and conduct. Theft, scams, and every illegal method of cheating and robbing is a way of life for them, the word is out all over Russia that when stores close in America, there is still stuff on the store shelves that has not been sold or shoplifted. This is an incredible thing for anyone in Russia to believe, and the petty thief element has seized on that rumor and, (500,000 to date), have come to the USA to steal or grab whatever they can get

In the old soviet union, the word and the way was, to cheat the government; there was no private industry to cheat, so they cheated the state. It has become engrained in their mentality and thought. This mentality to cheat the government, they carry to the rest of the world. Tax fraud ,welfare and healthcare fraud are the passwords to riches for them here in America.

The particulars of the methods used:

1. SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS

The social security law provides for benefits to a married couple entitled by right to social security. However, if the couple divorces, each gets individually the same amount the two of them got together, or almost that sum. So the scheme is to go thru a divorce case, get a divorce judgment, pretend to live apart but actually continue on, collecting double what they had before. They get separate addresses, but one of them gives a false address where other Russians live, gets his or her social security check there, and goes on living with his “former” spouse.

2. MEDICARE BENEFITS

Russian-Ukranian immigrants are particularly adept at this scheme. They set up medical clinics, and put in them one licensed doctor, but the rest are all Russian or Ukranian doctors who are unlicensed in the USA. The clinics are super fraud schemes – all their patients are immigrants from the former soviet union – so that the scheme is protected from outside introspection. How it works? False claims for these persons for medical benefits allegedly provided are submitted. The social security administration tries to verify if these services were really rendered and they face a language barrier and a fear barrier. The language barrier is obvious – these older people cant speak English. The fear barrier is much less apparent – these people are inculcated with the sense that the government is a punishing force, having lived thru it during the soviet years. Consequently, they shut up when approached by any investigator, and spread the word to the clinic operators. These people know the scheme as well as the Russians operating the clinic. Its phony services to people who wont talk and wouldn’t talk even if they could talk. Millions are raked in all over the US as the word has spread that this is an untouchable scheme. They’re right, it is. The old people who go to these clinics wouldn’t talk if they could speak English.

3. PHONY DISABILITY BENEFITS

The word is out all over the former soviet union, that in America, all you have to do is claim you are unable to work and the government supports you and gives you free medical care. This attracts the parasite class, whose main ambition is to live off of what others provide them and the prostitution clique of the old soviet union – women with no scruples, the type whose underhanded life style plagues the innocent. These scam artists get phony medical certificates in Russia from corrupted doctors, don’t show them when they apply for visas to come here, but on arrival go to the social security administration, show the documents and claim disability benefits under the social security system. They bring with them whatever pills are needed to create the symptoms of the condition if they are examined by American doctors, and a hundred thousand are claiming they have heart disease and getting free medical care and benefits by showing bad heart beat arrhythmias, when they apply and get away with it. All thru pills they know cause heart beat irregularities or other symptoms of conditions that will lead an examining doctor to conclude the disabling condition really exists.

4.SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS TO DECEASED PERSONS

When one of them dies, they bury the body secretly in some isolated area, and keep collecting social security benefits, and let some other illegal immigrant use the medical card of the deceased person and take the deceased’s person name, benefits and place. The death is not reported to local authorities or to anyone else. They find some person of the same age and gender to acquire the identity of the deceased person and keep collecting the benefits, while still another person adopts and uses the deceased person’s medical card. If investigators come around to check up, and the scheme participants are contacted, the story is that they don’t know the person, or the person moved away, or the person is in Russia on a trip and they know nothing more. This scheme usually succeeds until the deceased person, had they really been still alive, would be in his or her late 80s. Since all the persons in on the scheme are closely knit, usually the relatives of the deceased, breaking into it is impossible.

Real sweet and gentle folks these Russians and ukranians, aren’t they?

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  1. Sorry to inform you that fraud existed long before the iron curtain came down.

    Maybe the Russians are experts at it because this is the only way they could survive in their home land.  Immigrants unwilling to learn the american languages should not be allowed to stay beyond the allowed time for visits (tourists)  We need more people in immigration certainly after 9-11 it doesn't take a genius to figure this out.

    But if the Russians are so expert at it, how did you find out spekem de dautch


  2. Fabulous question and well documented...but one thing, if you think this is a phenomena just encompassing Russians etc, think again, word is out throughout the world about Canada and The United States and most of western Europe and the UK being a free ride for the criminals...but ine the UK and Canada, our own have shown them the way.

  3. Oh, yes. I would describe them as "sweet and gentle." I believe I have heard that term for lots of the illegals that are either overstaying their visas or sneaking across the border. We need a new government. Ours is broken.

  4. The real threat to America is the tremendous amount of debt created under Bush, with "former enemies" like China holding the stocks and bonds and loans that hold our nation together.

         If China decides to pull out, the American economy collapses, and we'll see times that will make a CharlesDickens novel look like a trip to Club Med, by comparison.

  5. The real threat is foriegn adventurism on the part of the American government.

  6. The russian mafia's code of silence and code of retribution make the sicilians look like sunday school kids.

  7. The greatest threat to any country is from within.

    A Summary of the Communist Manifesto



    The Communist Manifesto represents a misguided philosophy, which teaches the citizens to give up their rights for the sake of the “common good,” but always ends in a police state.  This is called preventive justice.  Control is the key concept.



      1.  Abolition of private property. ( US-Eminent domain)

      2.  Heavy progressive taxation. (US-At every level of government, there are over a thousand hidden taxes)

      3.  Abolition of all rights of inheritance. (US-Death tax)

      4.  Confiscation of property(gun confiscation) of all emigrants and rebels. (US-Patriot Act)

      5.  Central bank (control of money). (US-Federal Reserve System)

      6.  Government control of Communications & Transportation. (US- Proposed new national driver license, Texas Toll Road System)

      7.  Government ownership of factories and agriculture. (US-Corporate farms, NAFTA, Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP))

      8.  Government control of labor. (US-Minimum wages, OSHA, EPA)

      9.  Corporate farms, regional planning. (US-Regional garbage dumps, jails, water authorities, transportation authorities, school systems)

    10.  Government control of education. (US-No Child Left Behind)

    Hidden taxes; http://www.google.com/search?q=hidden%20...



    Texas Toll Road Party.com; http://www.texastollparty.com/action_tel...

    Education watch; http://www.edwatch.org/

    Judicial Watch; http://www.judicialwatch.org/

    "Isn't our choice really not one of left or right, but of

    up or down? Down through the welfare state to statism, to

    more and more government largesse accompanied always by more

    government authority, less individual liberty, and ultimately,

    totalitarianism, always advanced as for our own good.  The

    alternative is the dream conceived by our Founding Fathers, up

    to the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with an orderly

    society.  We don't celebrate dependence day on the Fourth of July.

    We celebrate Independence Day." --Ronald Reagan (1984)



    "Laws are made for men of ordinary understanding and should,

    therefore, be construed by the ordinary rules of common sense.

    Their meaning is not to be sought for in metaphysical subtleties

    which may make anything mean everything or nothing at pleasure."

    -- Thomas Jefferson (letter to William Johnson, 12 June 1823)

    “Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear." Harry S Truman

    "An unlimited power to tax involves, necessarily, a power to

    destroy; because there is a limit beyond which no institution

    and no property can bear taxation." --John Marshall

    Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is defined by the ability of citizens to live without government interference. Rep. -- Ron Paul, MD

    "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should

    have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence

    from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own

    government."--George Washington

    Make it a great day!

  8. I didnt know about their social security frauds but they are mafia gangsters to the marrow of their bones.

    Ever since the iron curtain fell,  criminals have been pouring out of the countries of the former soviet union,  to plunder and infect the rest of the world with their criminal minds and  conduct. Theft, scams, and every illegal method of cheating and robbing is a way of life for them, the word is out all over Russia that when stores close in America, there is still stuff on the store shelves that has not been sold or shoplifted. This is an incredible thing for anyone in Russia to believe, and the petty thief element has seized on that rumor and,  (500,000  to date), have come to the USA to steal or grab whatever they can get

    In the soviet union, the word and the way was, to cheat the government; there was no private industry to cheat, so they cheated the state.

    This mentality to cheat the government, they carry to the rest of the world. Tax fraud ,welfare and healthcare fraud are the passwords to riches for them here in America.

    The word is also out all over the former soviet union, that in America, all you have to do is claim you are unable to work and the government supports you and gives you free medical care. This attracts the parasite class, whose main ambition is to live off of what others provide them and the prostitution clique of the old soviet union – women with no scruples, the “rotten ****” type whose underhanded life style plagues the innocent. These scam artists get phony medical certificates in Russia from corrupted doctors, don’t show them when they apply for visas to come here, but on arrival go to the social security administration, show the documents and claim disability benefits under the social security system. They bring with them whatever pills are needed to create the symptoms of the condition if they are examined by American doctors, and a hundred thousand are claiming they have heart disease and getting free medical care and benefits by showing bad heart beat rhythms, when they apply and get away with it. All thru pills they know cause heart beat irregularities. And if one of them dies, they bury the body secretly and keep collecting social security benefits, and let some other illegal use the medical card.

    And its not just immigrant visas. Many get tourist visas, come and stay, and pay Russians in the USA to claim they are close relatives of these “visitors” so they adjust their status and go on the welfare or social security system and live free, no work, and we suckers paying taxes pick up the tab.

    Then there’s the Russian mafia – organized in New York, Boston, Philadelphia Chicago and Los Angeles and spreading out now from there. Blackmailing, fencing of stolen goods, sale of weapons and nuclear materials to anyone with the money to pay for it, and enforcement of their evil by murder not just to opponents, but also to critics.

    In the old soviet union, people huddle in fear of these criminals, actually hoping they will leave those countries for the west. Even the governments of these countries are afraid to act against them for fear of reprisals against the families of government officials, and/or are bribed to let the criminal element do as it wishes and go where it wishes.

    These leeches and thieves are polluting not just the USA  but all the world.

    Not content with that,  they now are reaching out from inside Russia to steal from us here

    thru internet scams and bank document fraud. The wickedness of this evil threatens not just the USA but the entire world.

    No wickedness  ever threatened the world as this breed of evil. It’s the exportation of crime and wrongdoing wherever they can put it.

    What kind of fools are letting this go on in this country and welcoming these thieves and leeches and gangsters in here to ruin our lives?

    What kind of fools are we to let them get away with it?

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