What is the religion of cursing (even in your prayers!) ?

Question

The following fatwa is found on the Official Website of Grand Ayatollah Muhammad Shahroudi (http://www.shahroudi.net/) He is one of the Maraje’ (top scholars) of the Shia, and he teaches at the Islamic Seminary at Qum. Not only this, but here he admits that there are authentic Shia Hadith which prove that the Infallible Imam of the Shia would curse the Prophet’s wives after each prayer, five times a day. So how can the Shia have the audacity to dismiss the fact that cursing the Prophet’s wives is a part of their faith?

سؤال 50 : هل يجوز لعن بعض اُمهات المؤمنين مثل السيدة عائشة لمعصيتها للرسول ولخروجها على إمام زمانها ولإعلانها العداء لأميرالمؤمنين علي بن أبي طالب(عليه السلام) سواء بالتصريح بالاسم علناً أو

Question 50: Is it permissible to curse some of the Mothers of the Believers, such as lady Aisha for her disobedience of the Prophet, declaring war upon the Imam of her time, and showing enmity towards Amir al-Mu’minin Ali ibn Abi Talib, either (cursing her) explicitly with her name or implicitly?

الجواب : يجوز لعن كلّ من أعلن العداء لأميرالمؤمنين أو الزهراء أو الأئمة(عليهم السلام)فكيف بمن ظلمهم وحاربهم إلاّ مع خوف تلف النفس وقد ورد أنّ الإمام الصادق (عليه السلام) كان يلعن ثمانية بعد كلّ صلاته (أربعة من الرجال وأربعة من النساء ) .

Answer: It is permissible to curse all those who showed enmity towards Amir al-Mu’minin (Ali), al-Zahra, or the Imams. And why not after the oppression (they faced) and the fighting against them? Except (do not curse them) if there is fear of being harmed. And it is also mentioned that Imam al-Sadiq (a.s.) used to curse eight (of them) after all his prayers.

سؤال 51 : أحببت السؤال عن مقطع اللعن الوارد في زيارة عاشوراء وأخص بالذكر هنا لعن الأوّل (أبي بكر ) والثاني ( عمر ) والثالث ( عثمان ) هل هو جزء من الزيارة وقد ورد عن المعصوم(عليه السلام) ؟ أم أنه خارج عنها ولم يرد على لسانه (عليه السلام) ؟ وهل كان الأئمة من آل البيت(عليهم السلام)يجيزون اللعن الثلاثة ويعتبرونه أمراً يثاب المرء عليه ؟

Question 51: My Habibi, my question is regarding the cursing that is found in the Dua’s of the Ziyarat of Ashura, and I talk in particular about the cursing of: the First (Abu Bakr), the Second (Umar), the Third (Uthman). Is it part of the Ziyarat and has it been reported by the Infallible (a.s)? Or has it been rejected? And did the Imams from Ahl al-Bayt allow the cursing of these three and did they say the person who does it is rewarded?

الجواب : نعم اللعن جزء من زيارة عاشوراء ويكرر مئة مرّة وقد صدر اللعن من الأئمة (عليهم السلام) وليس لعن الظالمين مختصاً بزيارة عاشوراء ، بل الروايات في ذلك متواترة . نعم لابدّ أن يكون اللعن غير مناف للتقية.

Answer: Yes, cursing is permissible in the Ziyarat of Ashura. Repeat it hundreds of times. It has been reported that the Imams cursed and this was not just the cursing of the oppressors of Ashura, but repeatedly (others as well). And this is found in a lot of similar Hadiths. And yes, the cursing must not be done in a matter to reveal the Taqiyyah.

source: http://www.shahroudi.net/aghayeda/aghayedj1.htm#

Answer 1

shiaism religion is full of c**p , like eating imams t**d and p**s will lead u to Jannah

" بول وغائط أئمة الشيعة طاهر ومن شرب من بولهم وأكل من غائطهم وجبت له الجنة"

-كتاب انوار الولاية-

"t**d and p**s of shiite imams is blameless , and every one drink their p**s and eat their t**d is in heaven"

-Anwaar Al-Wilaya-

here the cover of this shiite book

http://books.google.fr/books?q=%D8%A7%D9...

Answer 2

Answer from authentic Hadiths.

1552. Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said: "It does not befit a Siddiq (righteous Muslim) to frequently curse others.''

[Muslim]

Cursing a believer is like murdering him.''

[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

1553. Abud-Darda' (May Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "Those who frequently resort to cursing (people) would neither be accepted as witnesses nor as intercessors on the Day of Resurrection.''

[Muslim].

1554. Samurah bin Jundub (May Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "Do not curse one another, invoking Curse of Allah or Wrath of Allah or the fire of h**l.''

[Abu Dawud and At-Tirmidhi].

Answer 3

Islam calls for unity and solidarity. Both Sunnis and Shiites are required to work together and try to overcome their points of difference or forget about them, simply because the Ummah is facing a plight and both parties are targeted by one enemy.

Answer 4

I've never heard of him.

Do you even know what a curse is? It's not swearing, no, it's a dua meaning may Allah distance them from His blessings.

Answer 5

What Was Nasty Mawiyah's slogan

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What the Prophet said about those who

fight, hate, or abuse  his Ahlul-Bayt

The Messenger of Allah said:

     "Loving Ali is the sign of belief, and hating Ali is the sign of

     hypocrasy."

     ^^^^^^^^^

Sunni references:

- Sahih Muslim, v1, p48;

- Sahih Tirmidhi, v5, p643;

- Sunan Ibn Majah, v1, p142;

- Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal v1, pp 84,95,128

- Tarikh al-Kabir, by al-Bukhari (the author of Sahih), v1, part 1, p202

- Hilyatul Awliya', by Abu Nu'aym, v4, p185

- Tarikh, by al-Khateeb al-Baghdadi, v14, p462

This tradition of Prophet was popular to the extent that some of the

companions used to say:

     "We recognized the hypocrites by their hatred of Ali."

Sunni references:

- Fada'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v2, p639, Tradition #1086

- al-Istiab, by Ibn Abd al-Barr, v3, p47

- al-Riyad al-Nadirah, by al-Muhib al-Tabari, v3, p242

- Dhakha'ir al-Uqba, by al-Muhib al-Tabari, p91

Also Muslim in his Sahih narrated on the authority of Zirr that:

     Ali (RA) said: By him who split up the seed and created something

     living, the Apostle (may peace and blessing be upon him) gave me a

     promise that no one but a believer would love me, and none but a

     hypocrite would nurse grudge against me.

- Sahih Muslim, English version, Chapter XXXIV, p46, Tradition #141

Abu Huraira narrated:

     The Prophet (PBUH&HF) looked toward Ali, al-Hasan, al-Husain, and

     Fatimah, and said: "I am in the state of war with those who will fight

                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^...

     you, and in the state of peace with those who are peaceful to you."

     ^^^

Sunni references:

(1) Sahih al-Tirmidhi, v5, p699

(2) Sunan Ibn Majah, v1, p52

(3) Fada'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v2, p767, Tradition #1350

(4) al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, v3, p149

(5) Majma' al-Zawa'id, by al-Haythami, v9, p169

(6) al-Kabir, by Tabarani, v3, p30, also in al-Awsat

(7) Jamius Saghir, by al-Ibani, v2, p17

(8) Tarikh, by al-Khateeb al-Baghdadi, v7, p137

(9) Sawai'q al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Ch. 11, section 1, p221

(10) Talkhis, by al-Dhahabi, v3, p149

(11) Dhakha'ir al-Uqba, by al-Muhib al-Tabari, p25

(12) Mishkat al-Masabih, by Khatib al-Tabrizi, English Version, Tdadition #6145

(13) Others such as Ibn Habban, etc.

It is the well-known fact in the history that Muawiyah fought Imam Ali

(AS). And based on the above tradition of the Prophet(PBUH&HF) the

Prophet has declared war on Muawiyah. How can we still love a person whom

the Prophet has declared war on him?

The Messenger of Allah said:

     "Whoever hurts Ali, has hurt me"

Sunni references:

- Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v3, p483

- Fada'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Hanbal, v2, p580, Tradition #981

- Majma' al-Zawa'id, by al-Haythami, v9, p129

- al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Ch. 11, section 1, p263

- Ibn Habban, Ibn Abd al-Barr, etc.

The Messenger of Allah said:

     "Whoever reviles/curses Ali, has reviled/cursed me"

Sunni reference:

- al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, v3, p121, who mentioned this tradition is

  Authentic.

- Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v6, p323

- Fada'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Hanbal, v2, p594, Tradition #1011

- Majma' al-Zawa'id, by al-Haythami, v9, p130

- Mishkat al-Masabih, English version, Tradition #6092

- Tarikh al-Khulafa, by Jalaluddin al-Suyuti, p173

- and many others such as Tabarani, Abu Ya'la, etc.

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Muawiyah Instituting the curse of Imam Ali (AS)

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Muawiyah not only fought Imam Ali, he cursed Imam Ali as well. Furthermore,

he did force/make everybody to curse Ali (AS). To prove it, we begin with

Sahih Muslim:

     Narrated Sa'd Ibn Abi Waqqas:

     Muawiyah, the son of Abu Sufyan, give order to Sa'd, and told him:

     "What prevents you that you are refraining from cursing Abu Turab

     (nickname of Ali)?" Sa'd replied: "Don't you remember that the Prophet

     said three things about (the virtue of) Ali? So I will never curse

     Ali."

Sunni reference: Sahih Muslim, Chapter of Virtues of Companions, Section of

                 Virtues of Ali, Arabic, v4, p1871, Tradition #32.

For the English version of Sahih Muslim, see Chapter CMXCVI, p1284,

Tradition #5916

The above tradition, by the way, indicates that Muawiyah was surprised why

Sa'd does not follow his order of cursing Ali, like others do. This shows

that cursing Ali was a habit (Sunnah) for people at that time.  Who made

this Sunnah?  Was it Ali, or those who fought him?  Now, who fought against

Ali?  Wasn't he Muawiyah (the beloved companion of Wahhabis)? So this

implies that Muawiyah did innovate that habit (cursing Ali as Sunnah).

Below is more references in Sahih Muslim about Sunnah cursing Imam Ali

(AS), to prove that people were urged/forced to curse Ali in public,

otherwise they would face a costly sentence. It is narrated on the

authority of Abu Hazim that:

      The Governor of Medina who was one of the members of the house of

      Marwan called Sahl Ibn Sa'd, and ordered him to curse Ali. But Sahl

      refused to do so. The governor said: "If you don't want to curse Ali,

      just say God curse Abu Turab (the nickname of Ali)." Sahl said: "Ali

      did not like any name for himself better than Abu Turab, and Ali used

      to become very happy when somebody would call him Abu Turab."

Sunni reference: Sahih Muslim, Chapter of Virtues of Companions, Section of

                 Virtues of Ali, Arabic version, v4, p1874, Tradition #38.

Here is the Arabic text of the above tradition given by Sahih Muslim:

Cursing Imam Ali (AS) was an order from the beginning of Muawiyah's reign

for 65 years. He was Umar Ibn Abdil Aziz (may Allah be easy with him) who

canceled this order after more than half a century. Some historians even

believe that the Umayyah descendants themselves killed (poisoned) Umar Ibn

Abdil Aziz, because he changed their Sunnah, one of which was cursing Ali.

(See the Sunni book entitled "History of the Saracens," by Amir Ali,

Chapter X, pp 126-127).

One of the ugliest innovations that started during the reign of Muawiyah

was that Muawiyah himself, and through his order to his Governors, they

used to insult Imam Ali (AS) during the Sermons in the Mosques. This was

even done on the pulpit of the mosque of the Prophet in Medina in front of

the grave of the Prophet Muhammad (May Allah bless him and his Progeny),

so that even the dearest Companions of the Prophet (PBUH&HF), and Imam Ali

(AS), his family and his near relatives used to hear these swears with

their ears.

Sunni references :

- History of al-Tabari, v4, p188

- History of Ibn Kathir, v3, p234; v4, p154

- al-Bidayah wa al-Nihayah, v8, p259; v9, p80

On insulting Ali Ibn Abi Talib and cursing him during the Umayah period

starting in Muawiyah's reign, it is reported that:

     "Ali Ibn Abi Talib (ra) was cursed on the pulpits (manabir) of the

     east and west...", during the time of Muawiyah.

Sunni reference: Mu'jam al-Buldan, al-Hamawi, v5, p38

     In her letter, Umm Salama, the wife of the Prophet (PBUH&HF) wrote to

     Muawiyah: "...You are cursing Allah and His messenger on your minbar,

     and that is because you are cursing Ali Ibn Abi Talib and whomever

     loves him, and I am a witness that Allah and His messengerloved him."

     But no one paid any attention to what she said.

Sunni reference: al-Aqd al-Fareed, v2, p300

     "That it was in the days of Bani Umayyah, more than seventy thousand

     minbar (in mosques) upon which they cursed Ali Ibn Abi-Talib, in some

     of what Muawiyah made a Sunnah for them."

Sunni references:

- Rabeea' al-Abrar, al-Zamakhshari

- al-Hafidh Jalaluddin al-Suyuti

al-Shaikh Ahmad al-Hafdhi al-Shafi'i, composed 9 verses of poetry expanding

on what al-Suyuti has reported in the previous quote, I translated the

first three verses:

                        And Shaikh al-Suyuti told:

                That it was what they made into a "Sunnah".

                      Seventy thousand mibar plus ten

             from the top of which they cursed Haydara (Ali).

             And next to this the greatest (sins) look small,

                      but blame ought to be directed.

Let us now see the opinion of the son of Yazid about his father and

his grandfather, who was the witness from within the royal family!

     ...When (Yazid) offered the kingdom (throne) to his son, Muawiyah the

     second, in order that the flag of caliphate continues to wave in the

     house of Abi Sufyan!!

     After his death, Muawiyah the second, gathered the people on a well

     known day, he stood in them preaching, he said:

     "My grandfather Muawiyah stripped the command from those who deserved

     it, and from one who is more justified of it, for his relation to the

     Messenger of Allah and his being first in Islam, and that is Ali Ibn

     Abi Talib, he (Muawiyah) took over it by your help as you are fully

     aware."

     "Then following it my father Yazid wore the command after him, and he

     did not deserve it. He quarreled with the son of the daughter of the

     Messenger of Allah, and by that he shortened his own life... He rode

     his whim and hope left him behind." Then he cried and continued:

     "Surely, the greatest problems of us is our knowledge of his bad

     behavior and his awful ending, and that he killed the progeny (Itrah)

Answer 6

what shiite muslim said

and what shadow said :D

lol

Answer 7

grand ayatollah has to be some false god if he must make rules for Muslims.

Quran IS the only Grand Ayatollah and the only Imam.

If Allah does not guide you there is none to guide you!

Worship none but Allah!

Answer 8

Shia;ism is the only religion who based on cursing ,slandering and abusing others.