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What is your most preferred alternative fuel for vehicles?

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i always hear alternatives like bio diesel and other kinds. what do you think is the best and the most preferred alternative?

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  1. I want to go electric.  Liquid fuels of any kind require carbon, and the engines are noisy and have the potential for pollution.

    Besides, what other "fuel" can you make with a panel on your roof, or a windmill spinning at the top of a tower?


  2. Electricity's the best, because you don't need any special processes with enzymes or s******g up food prices, or government subsidies.

  3. pao d historian

    Hydrogen is a great option for the concept of free energy.     I built my first hydrogen cell about 5 years ago. Have converted over 50 vehicles in the last 10 years (gydrogen and EV) and now currently run 2 trucks (and another EV), my home hot water heater, home stove and home generator on hydrogen for free with caught rain water and the help of a $10 solar panel.  I offer a step by step DIY guide to walk anyone interested threw the process. You can find it at www agua-luna com or you can email me.

    There are basically 3 safe ways to make and use it... chemically, electrically and molecularly, the first 2 being easier so I'll only discuss them here. The fallowing steps were taking directly out of a DIY guide I offer to those who would like to run their vehicles or home on hydrogen safely. The entire guide is available at www agua-luna com

        On demand h2 generators are a bit different from the Hollywood versions like seen Chain Reaction with Keanu Reeves, that tend to explode violently every time a film is being made. However when used in an on-demand system there is no storage of hydrogen and oxygen in its gas form, only liquid (water) and is only transformed into gas “on-demand” in small cylinder size amounts. It’s actually safer then gasoline as it doesn’t evaporate, creating explosive fumes in the tank like gas.

        Chemically

        1. You’ll need a 6inch x 1ft schedule 40 pvc pipe. With pvc cement glue a cap on the bottom and use a s***w on cap for the top. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, s******g in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).

        2. Now crunch up a couple aluminum cans (beer cans, soda cans etc) and drop them into the pvc pipe, along with a couple cups of lye (Red Devil drain opener has lye in it, some Clorox and Drano’s do to).

        3. Then simply add water, s***w on the top and wait a few minutes.

        What happens in simplicity is that aluminum and lye don’t really get along so they battle, and as always the innocent civilians (water H2O) that the most casualties, by giving up its hydrogen and oxygen. This then builds up in the void of the pipe and is ready to be vented into your engine, by opening the valve. You may need to start your engine on gas then switch it off after the hydrogen starts burning.

        Electrical is a bit easier then Chemically.

        1. Simply take a small solar panel 1.5 amps is what I use ($9 at harborfreight.com), connect the 2 wires from the panel +- to 2 conductors (carbon cores of batteries work well, just be careful removing it from the jacket), but any conductive material will work ie. Copper, aluminum, steel, etc.

        2. Drop the wires into a water tank (I use 55gal drums), make sure they don’t touch each other.

        3. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, s******g in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).

        4. Then simply add water, s***w on the top cap and wait.

        After a few hours tiny bubbles will form and rise off one conductor (that’s hydrogen) and even smaller bubbles that just looks like foam will rise off the other (oxygen). I don’t remember which likes the positive and which likes the neg hydrogen or the oxygen.

        The third method is more complicated and is what I use for my vehicles. It’s just a modified Joe’s Cell, there’s a step by step DIY guide available to walk you threw the process here www agua-luna com

    It also covers the other 2 methods described in more detail.

    www agua-luna com

    Hope this helped, feel free to contact me personally if you have any questions if you’d like assistance in making your first self sufficient steps, I’m willing to walk you step by step threw the process. I’ve written several how-to DIY guides available at  www agua-luna com on the subject. I also offer online and on-site workshops, seminars and internships to help others help the environment.

    Dan Martin

    Alterative Energy / Sustainable Consultant, Living 100% on Alternative & Author of How One Simple Yet Incredibly Powerful Resource Is Transforming The Lives of Regular People From All Over The World... Instantly Elevating Their Income & Lowering Their Debt, While Saving The Environment by Using FREE ENERGY... All With Just One Click of A Mouse...For more info Visit:  

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  4. I'm in favor of Bio-methane.  I know it's kind of an unheard of fuel, but one worthy of taking note of.  Bascially, it's made from anything that decays.  In our application here, we're capturing waste gas from the manure at a small local dairy farm.  My university is currently developing a refinery that will scrub the raw methane, making it better than pipeline grade.  And at the moment, environmentally friendly solutions are being developed for all the by-products.  Of which, there are very few.

    It's worth us examining this as a possibility, seeing as simply natural gas when it's finished... it could simply be piped into the current system.  And after all, if it rots it'll make gas.  At present, landfills are being tapped and just burned to generate electricity.  Why not put all that fuel to good use driving our cars.  Check it out, you just might be impressed.

  5. I would go with electric energy, which is efficient and can be created from a variety of sources that will never run out, or will stay for a long time.

    ex-wind, geothermal, hydro, solar, etc

  6. I prefer Diesel. Next would be Electric. I drive long distances and don't have a lot of money, so the electric is out of question for me.

  7. Most alternative fuels have their pros and cons

    For example electric cars have a very short range, and yeah you'll save a boatload on gas but remember that your electric bill will skyrocket.  Also all that electricity probably comes from oil burning power plants.

    Hydrogen Cars suffer because there are very little hydrogen stations in the country.  The hydrogen what we use to power those cars we get from natural gas which is not a renewable resource.

    Cars that run on E85 Ethanol have engines that are more costly to produce than regular gas engines.  Besides it requires a lot of land and water to grow corn to provide the country with the millions of gallons of gas that we use.

    Not to mention, all of these alternative fuel vehicles are much more expensive than conventional gas cars.

  8. The possible alternatives are electric, biofuels, and hydrogen.  Among these, electric is undoubtedly the most promising.

    Biofuels are good because the carbon released by burning them was taken out of the atmosphere by the plants, so in that sense there's no net emissions.  However, you still have to put the energy into growing the biofuel crops.  On top of that, you need to use more land for growing crops so that you have enough for biofuels and food, which means less land for grassland and forests.

    For this reason, a study recently found that ethanol from corn and even switchgrass will contribute more to global warming than gasoline.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

    There are still good biofuels - for example using waste vegetable oil or creating ethanol from garbage (as discussed in the link above), but on a large scale, biofuels are simply not feasible.

    Hydrogen could theoretically be a green fuel, but the problem is where to get the hydrogen from.  Currently it mostly comes from natural gas, and the process emits as much CO2 as burning the natural gas itself for fuel, so there's no benefit.  Theoretically you can get hydrogen from water by running a current through it, but with current technologies it takes far more energy to break the atomic bonds than you get by burning the hydrogen as fuel.

    Plus there's no infrastructure to transport and store the hydrogen at refueling stations, and such an infrastructure would cost billions of dollars to build.

    Electric cars are far more promising.  The technology is advancing rapidly, and several reasonably affordable EVs with decent range and highway speed capabilities will be available within the next year or two (for example, the Miles Javlon, Aptera typ-1e, and ZAP Alias).  

    On top of that, because of the efficiency of large power plants and electric motors, studies have shown that even with the current US power grid mix (52% coal), EVs would emit less greenhouse gases than gas cars, hybrids, and even plug-in hybrids.  And you can always build more renewable power plants to make the power grid greener.  Plus the infrastructure (power grid) is already in place.

  9. Best: Battery-electric with lithium-ion or preferably nickel metal-hydride batteries.

    Most preferred: This biodiesel / ethanol bullshit.

    Most hyped by big car companies to distract from the truth: Hydrogen.

    Most actually sold and driven by ppl who think they're making a difference but really are not much: Hybrids.

  10. I hear milk is good.

  11. Compressed air. short range though.

  12. Bio diesel - smells like french fries...mmmm...french fries....

    Actually a cousin of mine converted his dad's old diesel Volvo to bio-fuel and drove it across the US last year. He ran a bit short on oil to burn a couple times but otherwise did fine - and yes it really did smell like french fries....mmmm...frenchfries

  13. WVO.Cheaper at $1.00 a gallon.

  14. Just plain fossil fuels as the plants will recycle it.

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