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What is your veiw on global warming.?

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i want you to tell me your Viewon global warming, why? are you liberal or conservative? what evidence that supports your side? how do you think the topic of global warming is impacting the earth's economy? heres my answer, and i want yours, i think global warming is a fake, a lie, and is wrong. im a conservative, but i also look at liberal point ov veiws, one quick thing, because i dont have much space to type all my things on how its fake, most of the supporting scientists admitted they where bribed to find "evidence" on global warming, and global warming is ruining, and destroying earth's economy, its stupid and just "the next topic" like overpopulation, the next "iceage" and now global warming.

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  1. my view on global warming is that it will eventually cause, and already is, devastating effects. there's the rising sea levels from melting fresh water glaciers, increase in temperature, and the ozone layer is basically disappearing.


  2. i would have to say that i agree with you because right now I'm in a environmental course that cover the topic of "global arming", I'm taking the class cause i heard that it was easy but from being in the class I'm not sure if i believe in the global warming either based on the fact that my instructor has spoke of alot times to when the scientist had to get large amounts of money to conduct a study on nothing, it seems like there is too much money being given to them to discover things that are suppose to be affecting our way of life but there is so many other things that was suppose to mess up our economy and our population growth, but it seems like everything is just fine....global warming...wron...global inflation maybe...

  3. It is a small problem compared to many others.

    It is being used by the political left to attack big industry.

    Finding other energy sources is important to prevent the U.S. economy from being held hostage to middle east oil suppliers, but not to stop global warming.

    The Kyoto Protocol, even if completely and totally implemented by the U.S. and every country in the world would only make a 5% difference in the amount of global warming that the models predict.

    The models are not accurate because they depend totally on assumptions that cannot be verified.

    Nevertheless, the increase in CO2 in the air is becoming alarming even without considering warming. The level is now much higher than any natural peak level in the last 400,000 years and it is rising so fast that on a 400,000 year long graph it looks like it is going straight up. And the rate of increase is increasing exponentially.

  4. I believe global warming is real-based on reading nearly everything I can.  However, I have still yet to see any evidence that it is a crisis or that it is being caused by people.  There is a definate warming trend, but that is easily understood if you look at the warming trend that has been going on for hundreds of years.  Planetary climates come in cycles.  Good scientists have been saying we were headed toward another ice age for years-long before the whole global warming issue came to light.  Global warming is merely one step in that process.  If you actually look into the cycles in history, we are clearly in one of them, just with more information than has ever been available.  This is merely the first time we've been able to measure it happening instead of looking back thousands of years later to see what happened.

    At the same time, since there is no evidence one way or another, and since we definately wont be able to do anything when its too late, I still think we need to do something to at least slow the rate of warming.  Even if it is just a natural cycle, it is a still one that will prove detrimental to us if it continues to its logical turning point (the next mini ice age).

    As for politics, I am conservative-true conservative, not a Republican.

    I am tired of both sides though.  One side uses horrible scare tactics that typically are based on bad science.

    Melting ice caps cannot raise sea levels-they will lower them.  Melting runoff from mountains and other frozen areas will cause flooding.  Fast paced effects are not possible according to most scientists (specifically the good ones), and the conclusion that major hurricanes are caused by man made global warmning is ridiculous.

    CFC's cant hurt the O-zone layer--theyre too heavy of chemicals to go that high, they will bond with extraneous molecules in the air, theoretically helping to fight smog (displaced 03).

    Al Gore is a politician/actor at this point.  He is not a trustworthy souce.  Read scientific journals, not self-serving 'documentaries'.

    On the other side, you have people saying that without evidence you shouldnt make changes.  That is just as ridiculous.  You cant sit around waiting to see what is going on.  You have to act before it is too late, especially on an issue that if youre wrong is major, but if youre right is unimportant-make the safe choice.

  5. Since you're a conservative, here are conservative views:

    "The science of global warming is clear. We know enough to act now. We must act now."

    James Rogers, CEO of Charlotte-based Duke Energy.

    “With overwhelming scientific evidence that global warming is adversely impacting the health of our planet, the time has come for the Congress to take action.”

    Senator Olympia Snowe, Republican, Maine

    "The overwhelming majority of atmospheric scientists around the world and our own National Academy of Sciences are in essential agreement on the facts of global warming and the significant contribution of human activity to that trend."

    Russell E. Train, Republican, former environmental official under Presidents Nixon and Ford

    "I agree with you (Gore) that the debate over climate change is over."

    Rep. Dennis Hastert, Republican, Illinois

    "Global warming is real, now, and it must be addressed."

    Lee Scott, CEO, Wal-Mart

    "Our nation has both an obligation and self-interest in facing head-on the serious environmental, economic and national security threat posed by global warming."

    Senator John McCain, Republican, Arizona

    "I'm trying to learn [about greenhouse gases and global warming]. The more I learn, the bigger believer I become."

    Senator Lindsay Graham, Republican, South Carolina

    “DuPont believes that action is warranted, not further debate."

    Charles O. Holliday, Jr., CEO, DuPont

    "These technologies will help us become better stewards of the environment - and they will help us to confront the serious challenge of global climate change."

    President George Bush

    Also see:

    http://www.repamerica.org/news/GEvol5/ge...

    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articl...

    "As recently as two years ago, Gingrich ridiculed the notion that humans are causing the earth to warm, but yesterday he said the evidence was "sufficient."

    "We have now passed the tipping point of that argument," he said yesterday."

    http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=1...

    "Global climate change presents a serious national security threat that could affect Americans at home, impact U.S. military operations and heighten global tensions, according to a study released today by a blue-ribbon panel of retired admirals and generals."

  6. I completely agree. I have done research report for a college essay and have found no evidence that supports man-made global warming. The only weapon liberals have is intimidation and scaremongering. One scientists after another are showing evidence that undermines the whole theory of Man made global warming, yet the media will not give them a minute of air time to state their position the media has simply censored their evidence. Conservatives have to rely on talk shows and blogs to get the truth out. According to a report in Investors business daily over 90% of reports by the media are sympathetic to the theory of Man-made Global Warming. Watch the following truthful documentary that puts Al Gore's documentary to shame: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...

  7. Firstly. my friend, Let us Agree to Disagree!.

    Global warming is the increase in the average temperature of the Earth's near-surface air and oceans in recent decades and its projected continuation.

    Although the American Association of Petroleum Geologists is the only scientific society that  has rejected the theory put forth  by Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)  that "most of the observed increase in globally averaged temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations," which lead to warming of the surface and lower atmosphere by increasing the greenhouse effect.But this theory is backed by  at least 30 scientific societies and academies of science, including all of the national academies of science of the major industrialized countries.

    But we are already seeing the signs Heat waves and periods of unusually warm weather ,Ocean warming, sea-level rise and coastal flooding ,Arctic and Antarctic warming.

    I do trust that you would also concur with me is i state that there is nothing wrong if we take preventive steps !!

  8. Photos of Mar's poles, over the last thirty years show a shrinking of them - perhaps global warming is more of a solar phenomena.  While man may contribute to global warming - I wonder where that will take us - perhaps we are entering the next ice age- perhaps it is just an anomaly.  I think the hot air from Al Gore and other clowns are just a Hollywood grade "B" movie with a poor fictitious plot.

    I like Chlordane.  I like high performance cars.  I like to waste electricity.  Tell the green peacers to clean the air by keeping their own rear-end exhaust inside their torso

    I am liberal and Conservative depending on the issue.  I am against Big Brother government - for replacing income tax with a value added tax.  Abortion's are A-okay but against pulling the plug - I am for swift capitol punishment- wish they showed Muslim be-headings (no thy enemy)

  9. i believe the earth heats up and cools down every so many years. Its a cycle just the hole in the ozone getting bigger and then smaller. People want to hype up everthing to give theirselves purpose.

  10. global warming is a serious issue.

    people need to stop ignoring the fact until something catastrophical occurs.

    if you disagree, watch an inconvient truth. that movie is based on hard evidence.

    no made up statistics, or "bribes."

    the hottest weather in history has been recorded in the last ten years.

    the number of category 4 and 5 hurricanes has almost doubled in the last 30 years.

    the flow of ice from glaciers in greenland has more than doubled over the past decade.

    if this continues, then the 9/11 memorial will be flooded in some years.

    EVEN IF IT ISN'T MAN-MADE, WE SHOULDN'T USE THAT AS A REASON NOT TO MAKE ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGES. IF WE WANT THE EARTH TO BE HERE FOR OUR GRANDKIDS, POSSIBLY OUR CHILDREN, SERIOUS ACTIONS NEED TO BE TAKEN. IT'S SAD THAT EVERYONE HAS TO SUFFER FOR A FEW GENERATIONS BAD CHOICES.

  11. i think the people that are trying to say that global warming is bunk are the same people milking us dry at the gas pumps. if the world went 'green' and started really working toward reducing greenhouse gases the petroleum industry would be one of the 1st to be negatively impacted by it. if we really put our minds to it, we could completely wean ourselves of our addiction to oil in 20 years. for that reason, we'll continue to see huge sums of petro-$ poured into 'proving' that global warming is a myth. even if it were, it would still be a good idea to take better care of our planet. i mean, come on, do you really think God put us here just to plunder everything we can? it just makes good economic sense to make the best use possible of the limited resources we have.

  12. we need to take care of our home

  13. i disagree.  the part of the scientific community that supports your view is paid for by the energy industry.  so why do i think the way i do?

    first, the IPCC paper was watered down as demanded by the US and China.  Why?  because both countries have large coal reserves that they intend to use for energy.  the IPCC consisted of both scientists and politicians.  the scientists were in agreement.  it was the politicians that were causing a problem.  if it weren't for the US and China, instead of 90% certainty, it would have been 99%.  that's what the science says.  it's only the energy industry that has a problem.  seems that they're not pleased with the prospect of losing their $100 billion quarterly profits.  i wonder why?  and i wonder how much they're paying people to stir up confusion!

    but, i'm not done.  let's do a bit of research. check out the links.

    <<Greenland lost roughly 164 cubic miles of ice from April 2004 to April 2006 (more than the volume of water in Lake Erie), while the loss between 2002 to 2004 was of 57 cubic miles.>>

    Lake Erie volume: 116 cubic miles

    the energy that caused that ice melt is enough to raise the temperature of lake Erie from freezing, to boiling.

    AND IN ADDITION, COMPLETELY BOIL AWAY ABOUT 9 CUBIC MILES OF IT.

    That's warming, on a global scale.

    when that much ice melts, the temperature doesn't change.

    0 degree ice, and 0 degree water, are the same temperature.

    but what too many people don't realize is the implication of all the energy that the earth is absorbing, and storing.

    which will, in the fairly near future, become far more obvious, when there is insufficient ice remaining to absorb all that energy.

    then you'll see heating.

    http://www.earth-policy.org/Indicators/I...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4783...

    http://www.livescience.com/environment/a...

    http://www.physorg.com/news77978603.html

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Greenland...

    but wait, not done yet.

    <<A state of Alaska rule says heavy exploration equipment can be used on fragile tundra only when the ground is frozen to 12 inches deep and covered by at least 6 inches of snow.

    However, because winters in the Arctic are becoming shorter, the number of days the tundra meets those conditions has shrunk from more than 200 in 1970 to only 103 (in 2003),>>

    yep warming. keep in mind, this involves the oil companies. you know, the ones that want you to think that global warming is not happening, or that if it is, it's not a problem. seems it's a problem for them.  (This has been reported many times.  this is just one link.  did you need more?)

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1...

    here's an article about Eskimos experience of warming. there are many such, but this one contains some history in it.

    http://www.orionmagazine.org/index.php/a...

    you might keep in mind that we didn't even get to what used to be Glacier National Park.

    i remember someone claiming, if it's getting warmer, why are glaciers growing on Mt St Helens?

    some things are just to unbelievable for words.

    and, there is this, from a couple years ago.

    http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/fu...

    "(the global warming) hypothesis was tested by analyzing 928 abstracts, published in refereed scientific journals between 1993 and 2003, and listed in the ISI database with the keywords "climate change" (9).

    The 928 papers were divided into six categories: explicit endorsement of the consensus position, evaluation of impacts, mitigation proposals, methods, paleoclimate analysis, and rejection of the consensus position. Of all the papers, 75% fell into the first three categories, either explicitly or implicitly accepting the consensus view; 25% dealt with methods or paleoclimate, taking no position on current anthropogenic climate change. Remarkably, none of the papers disagreed with the consensus position."

    finally, to the other part of your question.

    i'm a liberal.

    but that doesn't mean that i don't think.

    take the war in Iraq.  (please:)

    what's to be done?

    stay the course (one more push by another name)?

    leave tomorrow?

    neither.

    the real problem is that there are only bad options left.

    if you listen to the news, there are more and more bombings every week.

    it really is a civil war.

    but i shudder to think what'll happen if we just leave.

    as i said, there are just no good otions left.

    have a nice day.

  14. not happening

  15. You don't have to be a liberal or conservative to watch

    the ice disappearing in the far north, to recognize the

    drastic change in temperature and weather patterns,

    to compare the change in foilage and crops.  

    Global warming is not ruining the economy.  Our selfish

    desires to get more and more and more...whatever the

    cost...is what has ruined the environment.  I challenge

    you to take your cash and go sit on a little ice island

    with the polar bear..an ice island that is slowly melting

    away.   Stick your head in the sand along with everyone

    else in the monastary on Pennsylvania Ave.  The longer

    we wait....there will be an affect on the economy.

  16. This could be a long debate, but I think a view which is rarely heard is this. First, if you really are interested in the truth you should not look at what non scientists say. Also, you would try to look more often at the other side (ex:http://realclimate.org/). It's always easy to go and listen to what you want to hear. Then, are you competent do assess the scientific arguments? Even simple statements from scientist come from complicated and comprehensive measurement and analysis. No? So why are you REALLY denying climate change? Finally, when we really look at the single fact of the consensus: that a vast majority (1000s) of climatologists from all countries, (including ennemies), religions and political sides agree with the consensus, then 2 possibilities: either all these professionals have been completely wrong for the past 20 years and, so wrong that even  YOU can obviously tell (????), or there is a world-wide conspiracy to scam 6 billions people into what? giving more money to study climate????? On the otherhand, many (not all) Climate change scientist deniers are OPENLY financed by oil corporations who have obvious reasons to do it. mmmmmmmm........ Lets face it, people feel compel to deny climate change because they are afraid of it being real, do not want to feel responsible (it's nobody's fault though, it was unpredictable), and because politicians offer no solutions except taxes for their own benefit.

  17. Here are some facts in the link in the reference section; note 19,000+ people signed on in agreement.

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