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What is your view of Socialized Medicine?

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  1. Sure ask the canadians have long they have to wait before their govt. o.k."s for them to have an operation!!!! there is even an advocacy lawyer in N.Y. who helps the canadians, with their hospital bils, now thats bad!!!!! making them wait for months, this is my view, and its not for the USA, they only reason we are in a healthcare crisis right now, is the flow of illegal alians into this country, and the hospitals and dr's who let them in!!! it needs to stop, or they need to start billing the other nation for their people. or how about the other nations, taking care of their people, gee how would that work!!!!!!!


  2. Like all things, it has it's good points, and it's bad points. Yen & Yang ! EVERYTHING balances out ! Here in the USA, our gov't.( Democracy ) is based on Checks & Balances .If you take from one place, you must give to another place. You cant have a top, without a bottom; You cant have a front, without a back.

  3. Socialized Medicine will not work. Ask the Canadians. If they have a budget and start running out of money and you may need a kidney and they deny the surgery what would you do? Buy it on the black market? I can see them providing a plan for those that don't have anything, but socialized  it won't work.  People would start dying.

  4. I don't I have heard more bad than the good. I like the system I am on now, just don't like the high prices, but you have to have insurance. or your dead. might as well to say.

  5. Personally, I don't like the idea because it won't work the way that people and the government hopes it would.

    I am 60 yrs old and am considering retiring in a couple of years, I will not be eligible for Medicare for 3 years after I retire. I currently have circulation problems, high blood pressure and heart ailments. You would think that I would look forward to having socialized medicine in place so that I could take advantage of it when I retire.

    I'm a bit more realistic than that, how can I ask my children, you or your children to pay for my medical expenses ? Is my health your responsibility ? of course it isn't and it is not the governments responsibility either, it is my own responsibility.

    This means that I will have to purchase medical insurance and then find a way to pay for it, this will not be easy one I am on fixed income and with my present medical history it will not be cheap either.

    This does not mean that I will not take advantage of VA hospitals, this is a benefit that I earned during the Vietnam War.

    Somewhere you have to find ethics within yourself.

  6. It's generally a good idea.  There are several forms.  

    The most straightforward one is a Single Payer system.  This is like the UK and other Western European nations have.  That means that all citizens' medical bills are paid by a single source, usually the government or a government-backed insurance company.  

    Another system is the Multi-payer system.  I think Germany has this system (any Germans care to comment?).  This means there are several choices that are guaranteed to the people, but everyone is still guaranteed health care and it is still free for everyone.

    The last system is one that is being discussed by US politicians today, which is not really "socialized".. it is just an insurance mandate, similar to the one we have for car insurance.  Under this system, everyone would be required to have health insurance but there would still be co-pays, deductibles, and other out-of-pocket expenses.  

    My preference is for a single payer system.  This system reduces overhead costs of health care and ensures that every citizen is treated for their illnesses.  This is not a popular idea with doctors because most of them would have to take a pay cut.  It isn't popular with insurance companies because they would have to go out of business or start working for the government and provide insurance to everyone at a reasonable price (GASP!!)...

    US politicians, eager to please their campaign donors and those voters who have been swayed by the corporate propaganda against socialized medicine, usually do not tread into the issue for fear of upsetting the status quo, which works to the benefit of everyone except the customer (medical patients).  That is why they want to just require everyone to have insurance -- the insurance companies will continue making crazy profits because they will get to charge ridiculous premiums to people who are sick with diabetes or cancer.

  7. It is evil and kills people. That's why so many Canadians come to the USA now for treatment. They want to live.

  8. It allows young children to die. I know this for a fact. With permission from my best friend in England, I include her IM to me, to show what Universal Health Care (Socialized Medicine) did to her 11 year old son, Antony, who is now dead. He was born with a hole in his heart, which doctors never closed, because Antony was only allowed so much medical-care a year. Even the Coroner misdiagnosed his autopsy.

    Holes in childrens hearts are easily cured!

    http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/CC/000...

  9. I am not a fan of anything socialized. I hear they are putting children with cystic fibrosis to death in the Netherlands.

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