What made you realize that global warming was not casued by man?

Question

What made you realize that global warming was not casued by man?

Answer 1

I never believed it was caused by man

But then i went to collage and studied Geology and Paleontology

years ago.

And in studying those you also had to study paleohydrology.

When all this global warming bull started i spotted large problems with the AGW peoples claims as to what was going to happen.

When you study a field of science and someone that has never studied that field of science comes along and makes claims that are opposite to paleohistory.

then you know from the start that they are full of bulls**t

you will find that there are few paleontologist that support global warming as the AGW people see it  

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/faq.php

Answer 2

No. it was men and women! The sun and earth.

We have the technology to move past the carbon debate. We do not have time to go through the government red tape. With oil on the decline, we have to make massive changes, swiftly. But we have to take the time to get it right. We can not do this twice, or three times - like in the past; we have to put our money in the best return on investments and where we get multiple benefits. We have had most of this technology for 20 years but have not implemented it. We know what is cost effective; we know where we need better technology. Without governments mandating renewable resources that do not harm the environment, we are doomed. The fossil fuel depression with global warming will be the worst economic downturn in world history. But this is not doom and gloom; we have the ability to fix our mess and enough time. Solar Concentrating Electric Power Plants, wind, wave, small hydro-electric, geothermal, and nuclear energy are what we need. We must have a pollution surcharge where we pay the real price (health effects, global warming and cleanup) for oil, natural gas, coal, cigarettes, cooling towers, cars, trains and airplanes. Raising the price of fossil fuel today gives us more time to solve these problems and helps pay for the 20 Trillion Dollars worth of renewable energy over the next 10 years. Remember knowledge is power and this information is very powerful. Humans have 50 trillion dollars worth of stuff that runs on cheep oil, natural gas, or coal.

I attended the Focus the Nation at Sierra College on 1-31-08. The event was the 2% Solution, a 2% reduction over 40 years to solve global warming. Oil is a nonrenewable resource and we are running out-but not soon – anyone now want to pay $30 per gallon for gas. The problem is the oil will be gone in less than 30 years at present rates of consumption without projected increases and shortages (gone at least to run cars, heat homes, power electric plants or air travel). The 2% Solution is ok for the USA for a 10 year plan to cut 20%, but I would prefer a 5% Solution over the next 10 years for a 50% reduction. At the same time, we have to be building renewable energy so at the end of 10 years we can cut an additional 20%. With the peak of oil in the 1970’s, peak NG in the 1990’s, having mined cheep coal, the peak of ocean fishing in the 1980’s, and the peak of uranium in the 1990’s, humans must stop procrastinating and make real changes to keep earth sustainable including in the energy debate, finance and regulation. Over the next 90 years carbon dioxide is projected to skyrocket as human’s burn more fossil fuels, but we have to come up with what will take its place and cleanup our mess. One of the big problems we have is at some time Yellowstone will blow its top again, as the magma move closer to the surface, creating a nuk winter. After that we will not have to worry about the destruction of the ozone layer, global warming or pollution.

Many of mankind’s advancements cause earth surface to warm, destroy the ozone layer, kill off endanger species, heat cities, and in some way cause more dramatic destruction.  Blacktop and buildings (roads, roofs and parking lots-heat cities), deforestation (air pollution, soil erosion), duststorms (increase hurricanes and cyclones, cause lung diseases), fires (cause pollution, mud slides, and deforestation), refrigerants (like CFC's) and solvents (including benzene destroy the ozone layer raising skin cancer rates) and plastics; cars, airplanes, ships and most electricity production (causes pollution including raised CO2 levels and increased lung and other diseases); these human problems we must fix to keep life on earth sustainable! Humans have destroyed half of the wetlands, cut down nearly half of the rain forest, and advance on the earths grasslands while advancing desertification which increases duststorms.

The result is:  change is on the way, we just do not know what changes (where and when). Look beyond the hype, beyond the weather, beyond a quarterly report and beyond today. President Bush has made a choice of energy (ethanol) over food and feeding the starving people around the world; this is a choice China has rejected. The fact is Bush wants to buy food from out side the USA to send to starving people since our grain is not available. Now what USA Presidential candidate is giving you the facts so you can make an educated decision of which one to vote for?

But with that we must understand we have never seen what is now happening before. CO2 has never lead to temperature change, but temperature change has led to increases in CO2. The models have to be made as we go along with current evidence! But again adding a small amount of CO2 to the atmosphere enlarges the earths sun collection causing warming; increase water in the atmosphere and it forms clouds cooling earth but sometimes causing flooding. Even natural events are warming earth and causing destruction. The sun has an increased magnetic field causing increases in earthquakes (more destruction), volcanoes (wow, great destruction), and sun spots. Lighting produces ozone near the surface (raising air pollution levels). The USA Mayor's have taken a stand and I believe are on the right track, we can have control and can have economic growth. The sun is available to produce energy, bring light to buildings and makes most of human’s fresh water. Composting is the answer to desertification. New dams are the answer to fresh water storage, energy and cooling earth by evaporation, we need many small ones all over (California needs 100 by 2012 and we are far behind).

That is why I founded CoolingEarth.org, a geoengineering web sight where you can learn more about earth, the atmosphere, and how to sustain life on earth’s surface. Watch for changes in the sight coming soon.

Answer 3

The issue is not that humans cause global warming. The whole system is rather delicately balanced. A slight tilt can upset the apple cart. It is this part that humans are guilty of.

Answer 4

There are nutty environmentalists and there are stuffy conservatives who believe what they want to believe. Both are undoubtedly partially right and wrong. It is pretty clear that our Earth has changed dramatically compared to the past. Fossils from sea creatures are found where there is no water and shipwrecks from as recently as a few hundred years ago are found many miles inland. The specific causes of global warming will continue to be argued by experts who believe completely opposing views. Global warming may be happening far more quickly than humans like and it might be due to what humans contribute to the Earth. Unfortunately, this argument is almost always focused on the wrong issues.

Global warming is debatable. Global damage is an indisputable fact. It is not the fault of environmentalists though some of them make solutions very difficult. Human greed and ignorance certainly plays a role. Burying our heads in the sand is a common trait of those who automatically blame environmentalists for causing society to face reality.

Open your eyes. Look down at the street when you are waiting for a red light to change. There are thousands of butts and a few soda or beer containers and maybe 2-3 McDonalds bags on the ground that someone just tossed out their window because ... well ... they were finished with them. Recycling is stupid ... why bother? Nuclear waste ... bury it over there ... no problem. Coal soot ... not my problem. Garbage ... well ... isn't that why we have oceans?

We act like the things we do are of no consequence and argue that global warming is just another one of those environmentalists crazy ideas. Let someone else clean it up. We each need to stop arguing over whether Al Gore is a savior or an ego maniac and start doing our part, whether or not it is possible to stop global warming. I'd rather make the mistake of doing something to help than to continue blaming environmentalists for noticing that there might just be a problem.

Answer 5

I used to be a believer during the eighties and early nineties. I could not understand how the elder Bush would say, we still need to study the problem before we could act.  It was obvious that the temperatures were rising.  What more evidence did the elder Bush need.

Then one winter, it was brutally cold.  An environmentalist went on t.v. and blamed it on global warming.  That started to sound off the alarm bell.

A couple of years ago a read on article in Scientific America were the editor asked their readers who were skeptics for their reasons.  That  opened up my eyes.

Last year I watched the Great Global Warming Swindle.  I posted a question on yahoo answers for comments.  They gave me rule number one from the warmers.  do not discuss the science, attack the Man, repeat the mantra.  When I pressed for details non was forthcoming.  

When I started to do more research I found I was being mislead.  They took a lot of quotes that were out of context.  They cherry picked their data.  I found out how scientists perverted science with the hockey stick study.  I found out with their behavior and lies I could not trust these scientists.  I became a skeptic.

I should note, that I always despised the popular media for their alarmism.  They were always interested in sensationalism than reporting the facts.  Global cooling, AIDS(their projections into the future were far more, than what is actually the case), Y2K (china did not do anything and were fine), bird flu, mad cow disease, the atomic clock (we were one minute away from dooms day) etc.

Answer 6

ALL global warming is not caused by man -- and in the past before human beings were around, the ice ages came and went without human intervention.  Mostly because of so-called Milankovitch Cycles involving changes in the Earth's orbit and its tilt on its axis regarding the sun.

On the other hand, in the past 300 years human beings have dug up and burned millions & millions of tons of fossilized carbon - coal, oil and natural gas -- that was previously buried underground for millions of years, pretty much ever since the dinosaurs died out.

Most sane climate scientists agree that injecting this long-buried carbon back into the atmosphere, into the "natural carbon cycle" after its long sojourn under the earth, is now changing the climate.

Yeah - the last times we had major heating and cooling of the planet, it was mostly the Milankovitch cycles.  Mostly .. but now we've short-circuited the normal cycles, and we're increasing the concentrations of "greenhouse gases" in the atmosphere, and this is changing the climate.

Good reference books on this:

:"The Discovery of Global Warming," by Spencer Weart, of the American Society for Physics.  He has a web site on this subject, too.

"The Rough Guide to Climate Change," by Dr. Robert Henson of the National Center on Atmospheric Research (NCAR).

"Censoring Science," by physicist Mark Bowen.  Describes how the Bush administration, at the behest of big energy companies engaged in fossil fuel production, has recently tried to keep US government scientists from speaking the truth on this subject.

"The Heat is On," by science writer Ross Gelbspan.  Describes some of the industry PR campaigns that are designed to keep the public confused about this issue.

Answer 7

Become a Vegan and control methane caused by cattle.  If we Americans ate 150 less cheeseburgers a year, methane production would drop to less than all the SUV's on the road. If Brazil didn't need to clear rainforests to grow cattle wh would be in much better shape.  Everything "green" we can do would help.

Answer 8

These guys disagree with you.  I think I'll believe them.

"Former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich challenged fellow conservatives to stop resisting scientific evidence of global warming"

"National Review (the most prestigious conservative magazine) published a cover story calling on conservatives to shake off denial and get into the climate policy debate"

"Pat Robertson (very conservative Christian leader) 'It is getting hotter and the ice caps are melting and there is a build up of carbon dioxide in the air.  We really need to do something on fossil fuels.”

"I believe there is now more than enough evidence of climate change to warrant an immediate and comprehensive - but considered - response. Anyone who disagrees is, in my view, still in denial."

Ford Motor Company CEO William Clay Ford, Jr.

"The science of global warming is clear. We know enough to act now. We must act now."

James Rogers, CEO of Charlotte-based Duke Energy.

Answer 9

It is totally caused by man.  If we havn't been so selfish then we wouldn't have such a problem.

Answer 10

because its "warming faster at the north pole than everywhere else".

Historical records of cyclical climate change similar to this.

The countless unknowns that are not included in any of the computer models.

I dont believe they can calculate an "average global temperature".

Answer 11

When I took Geology in school...

Answer 12

Global warming was spread by politicians. Yet another reason for adding tax and more tax and more tax....

Answer 13

Because changing weather patterns has been going on since time began and records prove this.

Answer 14

I figured it out 30 years ago when the panic was over Global Cooling. Global Cooling was also blamed on Man, specifically Americans, and was also blamed on carbon dioxide emisisons, specifically American. Predictions at the time included claims that glaciers would cover Buffalo by the year 2000.

I was lucky enough to be a history buff and knew about these creatures called the wooly mammoth. The wooly mammoth was a giant, hairy elephant that used to wander all over what is now North America and much of Eurasia. He was able to wander such a wide area because much of the Northern hemisphere was in the middle of a great Ice Age and he was strolling around the ice.

Well ... the ice melted. ... and the wooly mammoths all died.

The wooly mammoth didn't drive a Chevy Blazer.

Answer 15

To keep it simple for you...We have had several ice ages, each had global warming in between...Man was not around for any except the last.

North america and Europe have in the past been covered by Glaciers  AND have been in TROPICAL climate. (at different times of course.

So this global warming is nothing new, and not caused by man

Answer 16

For a matter of such potential importance (who among us really KNOWS how much or how little) I find it noteworthy that not a *single* doubter of anthropogenic global warming here has given a *single* source of reference for their assertions, as of this writing.  Nor has one spent much time on their answer, judging from how short most are.  Some obviously prefer to go the easy route, issuing 'thumbs down' to people who do invest time and care... not because they've studied it and don't agree or trust the source, but because they simply *refuse* to study.  I gave quite a few sources, most of them familiar and well-regarded, and within minutes got 'thumbs down' from the first two voters.  They sure are fast readers!  But seriously, it's obvious that it's not about learning or credentials for some people; they either don't *read* the evidence, or they just don't like it.  It's the classic "I know what I believe... don't confuse me with the facts" mentality... the lazy person's way of avoiding having to think.)

Bob, you seem to put about as much care into your spelling as into learning the whole truth about global climate change.

For the record, you're quite right, to a point.  Global warming *has* happened naturally.  But there is a consensus among scientists internationally which says the best evidence we now have shows that man *has added to the problem.*  (It just occurred to me... is this ridiculous debate merely the result of human oversimplification, in that some people can only see black and white... one cause OR the other??  Pathetic, if true.  Are people so narrow-minded that they can't conceive of *both* being involved, as science has shown?)

I'll give sources showing man's contribution, for people who care.  Bob, and the other doubters: all you have to do, in order to have an intelligent, mature discourse on the subject is follow a few links, read the material, and then post here or in a future question/answer *why* you choose not to accept it, as a few other doubters have at least bothered to do (albeit without evidence provided).  But many of you, like Bob, won't read any of it.  It's just a game for you, and you'll continue posting childish, simplistic comments with no backing.  I sincerely wish people like that lived on their own planet so they could s***w it up without affecting me, my loved ones, and my environment.

In the absence of any opposing sources from anyone here, here's an important quote from one of mine:

It is not that scientists don't debate, dispute, disagree about matters related to climate. All those things happen, but not on the subjects that skeptics... would like to debate (like whether global warming is mainly caused by CO2 or solar variability, or whether the IPCC warming forecasts represent a credible threat.). Those sorts of things are indeed considered settled science by serious climate scientists. Then, too, scientists are justifiably wary of being drawn into staged debates on such diffuse, ill-defined and largely meaningless topics as whether global warming counts as a "crisis." In the war of the sound bites, the people who feel free to lie and distort can always win.

And another, from another source I gave:

...given the science that has been done since the Third Assessment Report ("TAR") of 2001...no one should be surprised that [the latest report] comes to a stronger conclusion. In particular, the report concludes that human influences on climate are 'very likely' (> 90% chance) already detectable in observational record; increased from 'likely' (> 66% chance) in the TAR. Key results here include the simulations for the 20th Century by the latest state-of-the-art climate models which demonstrate that recent trends cannot be explained without including human-related increases in greenhouse gases, and consistent evidence for ocean heating, sea ice melting, glacier melting and ecosystem shifts. This makes the projections of larger continued changes 'in the pipeline' (particularly under "business as usual" scenarios) essentially indisputable.

Finally, from the Union of Concerned Scientists link:

" The overwhelming majority of scientific experts, whilst recognizing that scientific uncertainties exist, nonetheless believe that human-induced climate change is already occurring and that future change is inevitable."

How much do you need to see, Bob?

Answer 17

WE DID CAUSE IT AND GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEAD.......EMISSIONS!!!!

Answer 18

your daily rants.

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/fu...

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/ab...

Answer 19

My interest in dinosaurs as a child...I was aware of this planet's history by the age of 6.

Answer 20

When I found out that all the c**p that environmentalists want us to do to fix the world would only makes a zillionth of a difference.

Answer 21

okay first off u can't prove we caused it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! soo ur all wrong... and secondly a fact is that when a volcanoe errupts (aka a naturally occuring event) it releases more CO2 into the air then us people have throughout the whole industrial revelotion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! soo idk that we are the sole problem....and another thing people for get is the earth was covered in ice!!!! soo no duh the earth is slowly getting warmer...the earth has  cycles!! and this is just one part of that... no one seems to complant that the poles are slowly switching and one day our compasses won't work!!

Answer 22

i havent realized this.... because it was caused by man.

Answer 23

Global warming and changes have been happening naturally for millions of years (before people, emmisions, aerosols, fuels,etc).