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What martial art would be benefical for UFC?

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Out of these martial arts, what would be best for attempting to get into the octagon? also, even if not listed, what martial art would you reccomend? thanks:

-karate and jujitsu

-military mma

-shin pu ren (specailizes in aerial kicks)

-akido

-kung fu

-tae kwon do

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  1. Probably BJJ, but you would have to learn it from the Gracies themselves, as they have engaged in no-holds-barred fighting, c**p man, almost as far back as the 1920's.  Actually scratch that I think since the 1940's.  The family has 60 years of acumulated wisdom, coming from scenarios far more brutal than the Octagon.  BJJ is a good foundational martial art, followed immediately by either Muay Thai or Boxing in fact, that is precisely what many competitors do.

    Most MMA fighters are submission wrestlers + muay thai, or BJJ guys + Muay Thai.  The notable exception being Cung Le, who is an expert in Sanshow, a new Chinese fighting style (not to be confused with Sanda), that combines Shuia Jiao, Chinese Wrestling, with I believe Hung Gar Chuan, and Northern Shaolin.

    By smacking the c**p out of Frank Shamrock, Cung Le Showed the MMA world just how effective Kung Fu is, espcially Shuia Jiao, Chinese wrestling.  I have been saying for quite some time now; Shuia Jiao is the king of grappling styles, and Cung Le proved it, as his fighting style is partly derived from it.  Le in fact, has yet to be defeated.  He has not been beaten in kickboxing circles, and he is not likely to ever be beaten in the Octagon in fact in his weight class I don't think there is any fighter out there in MMA circles tough enough to take him.

    Shuia Jiao, is a deadly effective form of grappling that combines the efficiency but simple practicality of Judo, it has groundwork far better developed than BJJ, throws that are easier to execute than Aikido and as if that wasn't enough, yeah, they even have a moves set designed to defend against flurries of strikes, which is something most grappling arts don't have.  While the martial art has been, in the past, defeated by Shaolin Kung Fu, it is still practiced in China, especially by its police and military, separate from Sanda.

    But, again, Cung Le's fighting style is a blend of Hung Gar Chuan, northern Shaolin, and Shuia Jiao.  All, Chinese martial arts, which he used to beat Frank Shamrock's western boxing and catch wrestling with BJJ thrown in.  Ultimately though you need BJJ and Muay Thai to get you started, and once you are done with those, move to Sanshow, Cung Le's style.

    Or h**l just take up Shuia Jiao, Hung Gar Chuan and Shaolin Kung Fu, train hard for about 5 years in an isolated mountain cabin somewhere making sure you are properly supplied for sports training and when you emerge you might even come out tough enough to take on the likes of Fedor Emanialenko.

    Okay maybe's that's pushing it but....

    For the UFC, most dudes generally do BJJ and Muay Thai to get started, and then move on to submission wrestling.  The great majority all have a high school wrestling background although you don't really need it.  In the UFC there have been lots of unathletic-in-high-school guys who worked hard and yet killed the competition.

    In fact some of those guys are former nerds.

    Wanna know what the favorite past time of MMA fighters is?

    Drum roll; video games.

    When they are not training, they play video games; they are an extremely irresponsible bunch.

    Although, given the fights some video game disputes will start, if someone gets pissed over "cheapness" while playing a sports games hey!  Its not like they can't settle their differences on a nearby mat right?

    Hope this helped.


  2. Kyokushin Karate.  I took it for 10 years and I believe it has helped me a lot in my MMA career.  It is a very, very physical Karate.  You train full contact sparing at the end of every day (no punching, elbows, or knees to the face, no groin strikes, but everything else is full contact with no gloves).  It is a very powerful striking Karate that has believes in doing a lot of damage with every strike.  It also does a lot of knee and elbow work.  GSP from the UFC is a black belt in Kyokushin Karate and gives it a lot of credit for why he is where he is today.

  3. The common answer would be muay thai and jujitsu.

  4. Out of your list.  Karate and Jujitsu.  Covers all four fighting ranges.  I know alot of people are going to say Muay Thai over Karate and for pure MMA that is probably correct.  However Karate does teach all the same strikes as Muay Thai as well as a few MT doesn't teach, but also includes many techniques that are more appropriate to the street.  

    The main reason people pick Muay Thai over Karate is because about 100% of what is taught in Muay Thai is applicable to MMA.  While Karate also teaches these same techniques it also has alot that is more applicable to the street and it is also more Traditional.  So Karate is probably more like 33% applicable to MMA, 33% applicable to street, and 33% that is just pure tradition.

    Still many MMA fighters that started out with Karate credit Karate for their striking skills, including: Bas Rutten, Chuck Liddell, GSP, Muchado, etc.

  5. this martial art from Indonesia :

    Pencak Silat

    for information, you can open :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pencak_sila...

  6. wrestling is good for your take downs, jujitsu is going to help you while your on the ground or even standing sometimes. muay tai is really going to help you on your kicks and boxing is for your standup game

  7. karate and jujistu.. but overall depends on fighter really

  8. i have to karate and jujitsu out of your list

    i prefer jujitsu and muay thai

    or jujitsu and boxing

    you need to know how to fight on the ground so you HAVE to have jujitsu or some type of wrestling/grappling mixed in

  9. Personally I do ITF TKD and it is important to make that distinction especially if you intend to use it to fight MMA style...ITF has punches, kicks, knees and a more vast array of strikes compared to WTF (haha it stands for World Taekwondo Ferderation) TKD which is very limited and focuses so much on speed kicking they drop their hands because other than to block kicks, there's no point in having them up. (WTF TKD is the style you see on TKD hating videos when it is matched up against Muay Thai and since uneducated people believe there is only one 'style' or family this leads to the 'TKD sucks' comments and whatnot when in actual fact, ITF TKD fighters in MMA completely anniahlate their opponents because they are simply overwhelmed by the amount of combinations Cung Le trained in Sanshou which would also be useful as well as supposedly training in TKD according to the MMA episode of human weapon. Sirkan Yilmaz does K1 and is also a ITF TKD fighter) TKD in general focuses on kicking combinations as well as variations thus having many kicks to choose from (for each kick there is 4 differant variations to it)...Military MMA is just that: techniques for self defence and on a side note they train in jiu-jitsu subs and chokes...which is odd because if i was in life or death hand to hand the only ground fighting abilities I would want are escapes to allow me to get back on my feet...but anyways by doing ITF TKD you are more well rounded than Muay thai/kick boxing fighters simply because you have more to choose from. As well, ITF TKD teaches many kicks some of them aerial...which eliminates the need to do shin pu ren, why do 2 kicking arts when you can do one...?? Jiu-jitsu submissions are always good to have and if not that basic knowlage of different submissions as well as escapes...real kung fu teaches too many what MMA fighting would refer to as illegal techniques (throat strikes with finger tips, eye gouges, groin attacks, neck attacks)...aikido is good but takes substantial amount of time to master the concepts of leverage, center of balance and other aspects of the art.

    For a close range hand skill art to effectivly use either in the ring or on the street Wing chun kung fu. It is easy to pick up ad learn and focuses on getting out of the way of attacks at the same time you are countering with one of your own which is really useful and it is more of punching/palm strikes as opposed to finger strikes and MMA illegal techniques...that way you can use them if you have to but use your fists in the ring. As for Silat it is a military and self defense art and unless you are in bloodsport im guessing you don't want to kill your opponent....it extremely effective at what it does but is not made for a ring simply because it teaches you how to defend yourself not trade punches in an octagon with rules...

    My well rounded suggestion (completly my opinion)

    Short range/punching

    - Wing Chun kung fu

    Middle-Long range

    - ITF Taekwondo

    Ground/Submission

    - Jiu-Jitsu

    I hope this helps

  10. Brazilian jiu Jitsu will improve your ground game and muay thai will improve your stand up game.so a mixture of the two would make you pretty well rounded.

  11. If you're looking to get into mma, two very beneficial arts would be BJJ and Muay Thai. Also, TKD will really help with speed if need help in that area. Wouldn't advise working with aerials, that'll get you in trouble in mma. Aikido, on the other hand might actually be somewhat helpful, as it uses your opponent's force against them, and that can be helpful when being charged, but won't replace BJJ. Stay away from karate, most schools have watered it down now, and what you'll learn there will be of no use to you. Military combat training would be EXTREMELY useful if you can get it, as it has helped me a lot. Hope this helps.

  12. muay thai and jujitsu

    you wont get very far with out jujitsu. you have to learn if for ground fighting. and you wont fight good stand up with out some kidna good strike and kick skills u need muay thai. that karate c**p aint gonna cut it

  13. mma is mma. it is no longer that style vs that style. it has come a long way. if you want to be good at it there is one thing you should take at a young age and that is wrestling. and then get in to mma. I never wrestled so I have a very hard time picking it up and the wrestlers seem to have the best work ethic. but what are specifically taught in mma schools is BJJ, Muay Thai, Boxing and wrestling. how ever some people like Machida use karate in stead of Muay Thai and some people use sambo instead of BJJ. but if you want to do mma wrestle and then go to mma

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