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What was Hitlers plans for conquering France?

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What was Hitlers plans for conquering France?

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  1. Hitler's plans were essentially to use those developed by Manstein. Thus, he took the idea and ran with it. I hold to those who argue that Hitler had not short term plans for invading or attacking France before the Western powers DoW in 1939. From Hitler's writings and policies at the time it seemed more apparent that he would consolidate his holdings in the East and then attack and finish Russia at a later point. There would have been no chance for  British or French alliance with Russia if it was just the two dictatorships beating each other bloody.


  2. Cutting and pasting a report without acknowledging a source is pretty underhand.

    http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster...

  3. Hitler was for attacking France the moment Poland was out of the way, but bad weather and the need to regroup delayed things till the spring.

    The original German plan was for a 'right hook' similar to the Schlieffen Plan of 1914.  But nobody thought it would knock France out of the war.

    It was von Manstein who came up with the double attack with the right thrust luring the allies into the Netherlands, to be encircled by the left hook going through the Ardennes and then right to the sea.

    But even Manstein did not think of it as winning the campaign.  That was the result of the collapse of the French army.  A lot of the campaign of 1940 was improvised and it was after that the Germans got the idea they had this war-winning blitzkrieg.

  4. unfortunatly, I can't say anything better than the person above me. HE must be a history teacher, I can say this, I'm pretty sure England help Poland with their navy. I'm pretty sure they transported the old goverment to England, I kinda doubt it now htough.

  5. As documented in the World Future Fund Report, General Plan East: The n**i Revolution in German Foreign Policy,  the foundation of Hitler's geopolitical plans was the conquest of the European part of the Soviet Union.  Hitler had hoped that he could reach a nonaggression pact with England before the war and launch this campaign in conjunction with a Japanese invasion of Russia from the east.

    In 1938 and 1939 British and French opposition to German plans for expansion in eastern Europe led to a situation in early 1939 where Germany was facing an ultimatum from Britain not to invade Poland.  Hitler had absolutely no interest in attacking France or England, but the March 1939 agreement between England and Poland forced Hitler to totally reverse course and reach an agreement with Stalin concerning a division of Poland, similar to the agreement reached between Frederick the Great and Catherine the Great in the late 18th century.

    Hitler had hoped that this would intimidate England and France and make them willing to accept a German conquest of western Poland.  He was dead wrong, and in September 1939 England and France declared war on Germany, turning a territorial dispute between Germany and Poland into a world war.  Ironically, England and France did not declare war on the other partner in the conquest of Poland, the Soviet Union.  England and France also violated their solemn assurances to the Poles that any German attack on them would immediately lead to a French invasion of Germany.  As a result, Hitler was able to concentrate almost all German forces in the east and crush the Poles while Britain and France sat behind their defenses in the west and sent no aid to the Polish forces.

    The pathetic collapse of the numerically superior Anglo-French military forces in May 1940 and the fall of France caused Hitler to again turn his attention to his primary goal.  It is an example of the depth of geopolitical obsession with conquering Russia that even without reaching a peace agreement with England (now being backed by America) he began active planning for an eastern invasion..

    He still kept his options open but after the failure of discussions with Molotov in Berlin in November 1940 he gave specific orders to set in motion his original master plan.  The following material documents Hitler's comments in secret discussions in the summer of 1940.  )Unless other wise noted, these quotations were taken from Walter Warlimont, Inside Hitler's Headquarters, 1939-1945.  Tr. R.H. Barry, Novato, CA: Presidio Press, 1991)

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    Military Planning Conference at the Berghof, 29 July 1940

    Military Planning Conference at the Berghof, 31 July 1940

    Additional Evidence

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    Military Planning Conference at the Berghof, 29 July 1940

    These comments were made during an informal meeting of German military officers in the Special Command Train Atlas at the Bad Reichenall Station following the conference at the Berghof.  These comments were made by General Alfred Jodl, the Chief of the Armed Forces Command Staff (Wehrmachtsführungsamt) in Armed Forces High Command - OKW.  The comments were recorded by Jodl's subordinate, Colonel Walter Warlimont.

    "[Including myself] Four of us (Lt. Col. von Lossberg, Capt. Junge, Major Freiherr von Falkenstein) were present, sitting at individual tables in the restaurant car. ... Jodl went round ensuring that all doors and windows were closed and then, without any preamble, [he] disclosed to us that Hitler had decided to rid the world 'once and for all' of the danger of Bolshevism by a surprise attack on Soviet Russia to be carried out at the earliest possible moment, i.e. in May 1941.

    ... Jodl countered every question [we had] ... although he convinced none of us. ... He repeated Hitler's view and probably his own also that the collision with Bolshevism was bound to come and that it was better therefore to have this campaign now, when we were at the height of our military power, than to have to call the German people to arms once more in the years to come.

    ... Shortly after Jodl's disclosure, we happened to discover that Hitler had originally been determined to launch the attack in the late summer of 1940.  The most urgent representations from Keitel and Jodl ... had been necessary to convince the Supreme Commander that the time and space factors alone, together with the weather conditions, rendered this plan totally impracticable."

    Source: Warlimont, Inside, pp. 111-112

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    Military Planning Conference at the Berghof, 31 July 1940

    This meeting included Hitler, the Chiefs of Armed Forces High Command (OKW), Army High Command (OKH), and Navy High Command.  These notes are from the war diary of General Franz Halder, the Chief of Staff in OKH:

    "[According to Hitler] Britain's hope lies in Russia and the United States.  If Russia drops out of the picture America, too, is lost for Britain, because elimination of Russia would tremendously increase Japan's power in the Far East.  Russia is the Far Eastern sword of Britain and the United States pointed at Japan. ... Russia is the factor upon which Britain is relying most.  Something must have happened in London! (i.e., a reference to Britain's pre-war anti-communist stance being reversed) ... With Russia smashed, Britain's last hope would be shattered.  Germany will then be master of Europe and the Balkans.  Decision: Russia's destruction must therefore be made a part of this struggle.  Spring 1941.  The sooner Russia is crushed, the better.  Attack achieves its purpose only if Russian state can be shattered to its roots with one blow.  Holding part of the country will not do.  Standing still for the following winter would be perilous ... Resolute determination to eliminate Russia."

    Source: Halder, Diaries, pp. 533-4 (31 July 1940)  

    Conversations and Military Planning Conferences in 1940 during which Hitler Stated His Intention to Attack the USSR:

    "In another conversation with Field-Marshal von Rundstedt on 2 June 1940 recorded by the l; General von Sodenstern who was present, Hitler said that now that he imagined England was ready for peace, he would begin to settle the account with Bolshevism.

    Entries in [General] Halder's diary:

    3 July 1940.  (Recording a conversation with the head of his Operations Section)  The most pressing problems at the moment are England and  ... the East.  As regards the latter, the main question is how to deal Russia a military blow which will force her to recognize Germany's preponderant role in Europe.'

    13 July 1940.  (After a conversation with Hitler)  The question in the forefront of the Führer's mind is why England is still unwilling to make peace; like us, he thinks that the answer is that England still has some hope of action on the part of Russia.

    22 July 1940.  (Recording a conversation with the Commander-in-Chief of the Army [Brauchitsch])  The latter appears to have summed up his impressions of a discussion he had had with Hitler the previous day by the following instruction: 'The problem of Russia must be dealt with.  We must begin thinking about this.'

    30 July 1940.  (An extract from an appreciation of the situation worked out with the Commander-in-Chief of the Army [Brauchitsch])  If we cannot reach a decision against England, the danger remains that England will ally herself with Russia; the question then is whether we should carry on a war on two fronts, one of which would be Russia.  Answer: Better remain friends with Russia.

    31 July 1940.  (Some of Hitler's statements in the Berghof)  ... Russia must be dealt with.  Spring 1941. ... Destruction of the power of Russia.  To be achieved by:

    1. A thrust towards Kiev with flank on the Dnieper.

    2. Thrust through the Baltic States in direction Moscow. Finally, pincer operation from north and south.  Later a separate operation against the Baku oil fields.  We can then see the extent to which Finland and Turkey are involved."

    Source: Warlimont, Inside, pp. 112-113, 135.

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    Additional Evidence

    Excerpt from Orders Given by General Alfred Jodl to the OKW Planning Section Concerning the Attack on the USSR, 5 December 1940:

    "The Führer is determined to carry through this operation in the east since the Army will never again be as strong as it is at this moment and Soviet Russia has recently given one more proof that she will always, whenever possible, stand in Germany's path."

    Source: Warlimont, Inside, p.137.

    Evidence that Plans for a German Attack on the Soviet Union existed before Hitler's Formal Instructions in Late July 1940:

    "General Jodl ... during cross-examination in Nuremberg in 1946, stated: 'I was not the first who made preparations for an attack on the Soviet Union.  To my surprise I discovered here [at Nuremberg], through the witness Paulus, that long before we [i.e., Wehrmacht High Command - OKW] concerned ourselves with any orders of this kind, plans of attack were already worked out in the General Staff of the Army [i.e., Army

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