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What will be the long term impact of the female - male education gap?

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Elf #3 - you beg to differ? Based on what data?

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  1. If u are talking about our young women today, yes they are better educated, more motivated and harder workers.  But, the last 2 qualities are not new in the female population.  I don't think higher education will hurt our s*x, but I do know you can't take the win out of a winner!

    Education can only help us to be better<  What we do not need is more of an imbalance, though.  Women hold up "the world". We are the care takers of the family/harth and we (in my case & in the majority of my friends) take home the bacon.  I do not have a degree, but have supported both my husband and my stepson during the entire marraige. As well as cook, clean and manage the house.  I am 45 yrs old and just had a baby and now my husband says he will step up and pay the bills. (I am looking forward to that!)


  2. I'm sure the pedulum will swing the other way long before we hit 71/29.

    ETA:  Step back and look at the big picture...how many social trends are cyclical and how many follow a linear curve?

    "No compelling reason?"   I beg to differ.  The pendulum will swing.

  3. I'd like to see the difference between the percentage of males who graduate college and the number of females who graduate college.  Hopefully times have changed, but back in the day when I went to college most of the females were not interested in getting a degree -- they were more interested in finding a husband.  Now, there were quite a few guys that ended up dropping out of college (or getting kicked out), but the majority of them stayed the course and got a degree.  So I don't think it's higher education that makes the difference.  I believe what makes the difference is how many people actually get their sheepskin...

  4. But those numbers (the percentage by 2020, etc) are only likely IF the trend continues. Chances are MUCH more likely that it will level off, and remain around 50/50 (and the last number that I saw for the current trend was 54/46).

    I think that it's important to note that the current trend is not so much about gender, as it is class. Among middle class men and women, it's about 50/50. Among lower class men and women, you see MANY more females going to college than you do males. One really has to examine what is going on with these social groups to really understand this current trend, and how to get more lower class males into college, as well.

    EDIT-Even though the article suggests that the trend will continue until 2010, there is no reason to believe that it will continue beyond that. One can SPECULATE that that might be the case... but that's all it is.

    Either way, the trend is, again, more a matter of socio-economic status that gender (and the article you posted supports this). So there is no REAL "education gender-gap". It has more to do with social class and culture. Again, what can we do to get more LOW-INCOME MEN into college?

    EDIT-Again, your OWN source states that the gap is by and large a socio-economic one..why are so willing to ignore what your own source so plainly states? What is your motive? And are you going to tell me that there is no lower class socio-economic group in Maine? That, in addition to it being "lily-white," it is also ALL MIDDLE CLASS and above? Really? I know better. I was not talking about RACE, dear, I was talking about CLASS. There ARE lower class white folks to, ya know. And lower class white MEN are also not going to college as much as the females in their same class (and race). You can attempt to paint this as some sort of "gender" thing all you want, but the data shows it to be something else entirely. Again, the better question is why are LOWER class men (of all races) not attending college at the same rate as lower class women. Otherwise, your chasing a red-herring and getting nothing done.

  5. It's merely as a result of high demand for labour (careers that  largely have a male demographic).

    Men are able to begin a career immediately being paid $25-35 / hour without attending college or university.

    Higher paying careers with female demographics tend to require higher education.

  6. So you are saying that statistically there are more women in entering college than men?  

    Its believeable because the only way up for women is through higher education.  Its not about making more money than men, its about being able to provide for herself and yet have a better concept of seeking a better lifestyle(including better mates).  Women don't have to marry anymore, they can go on living with a roommate forever(until she wants a baby(biologically)).  But until then, she is single on her own.(unless she has a trust) Then she finds a mate, has a baby and steps out of the job market for a while.  

    Men, on the other hand, can have only a high school education and still get paid higher, much higher.  Why?  Because this world works according to stats, just like you proved it.  Women are expected to fall out of the workforce (for some time in their lives) while men continue and develop a long stable history of loyalty to their careers(rising to higher positions).  They just don't fall out even while a new baby arrives.  Men are defined by their careers, not their children.  Unfortunately, women fall in the trap of being defined by their children.  And we therefore, aren't given the same respect until we get back into the work force and set the children aside(the children finally grow up and out of the house,etc).  

    But at least we have that higher education to get back to and brush up on the skills needing to be competitive in the market again.  And then again, there is the issue of divorce.  Women have taught their daughters not to expect a man to take care of them.  Validation is another factor that we go for higher education.  We have accomplished the study, and therefore we have the knowledge to put it in place and to make it worthwhile for our communities.  So there you have it.  Education is the key for our well being in all aspects of better living conditions.

  7. All this technical c**p who cares I don't know.

  8. Give it up, pal, too many feminists here.  You ain't gonna get any sympathy for any problems related to boys or men.

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