What would you tell a promoter who arranged a gig for you under ethical circumstances you did not agree upon?

Question

What would you tell a promoter who arranged a gig for you under ethical circumstances you did not agree upon?

Answer 1

Don't really know if i'd want a promoter who didnt know what my ethics were or who had different ones - Isnt it an intimate  sort of relationship.

if a promoter is like an agent/manager  and if I had the guts I'd say your'e fired!

What first came to mind was the question

How came you to  think I would want to do this?

mInd you there might be lots more to take into consideration  - if it was the first mistake how gross a mistake it really was how hurt you feel - how compromised you feel by their behaviour - Not nice position to be in .

Answer 2

Tell him to go fly a kite.

Answer 3

First, you and/or the band should be speaking with your manager who arranges such engagements, works out contracts, etc.

If you do not have a manager whom you can trust to work for your best interest with you ideology in mind then you have successfully discovered the first and primary problem which needs to be resolved as soon as possible.

A promoter is simply an individual or corporation that produces a show by hiring/engaging various acts to perform as part of the same.

If they are producing a specific event as part of a political or social agenda towards a certain point of view, etc. with which the band does not agree or wish to support, the band should speak to the manager who signed them up for the same.

If the producer hired the band without telling them through their manager these aspects of the engagement, and the band does not support the movement being promoted then they need to contact their legal representative, lawyer(s), etc.

If the band is on the level of having a recording contract, their record label may also need to be notified of the situation.

Good luck

ADDITION:

Music and entertainment is a business but most musicians and entertainers don't understand business such as not knowing the difference between a manager and a promoter, not having contracts and legal representation.

Don't a little fish swimming with the sharks as you will be eaten and end up playing ain a local bar from h**l for the rest of your musical and professional life, or, as the late Frank Zappa put it, "Wind up working in a gas station..."

Educatioin is not your enemy, but ignorance should be.

Answer 4

..........someone will be fired or it will have to be redone at no additional expense.

Answer 5

If this gig is "THE ONE" and it's what you want and most importantly can live with yourself, do it. I don't know many artists who didin't cross the line one or twice in order to succeed.

Your call now, and hope to see you on MTV soon!!

Answer 6

Sounds like you're in for a lot of discussion and fine print, especially if wordy contracts were involved.  

Basically, if I don't agree with a gig, ethical or not, I'd see if I could get out of it without losing money or "promotability" I guess (street cred?  I'm not sure what you call it in the gig world).  I wouldn't want to be seen as someone who carried a poor brand...I'm not sure if that makes sense since I don't fully understand the "gig" world.

Answer 7

i will tell them how i feel about the situation

Answer 8

I HAVE told them no.  I answered an ad for a band looking for a female vocalist and they were paying me so much per song.  I had already recorded several songs and they loved me... said I was the best thing they'd come across.  Then they gave me a song about a woman killing her husband because he was just scum anyway and she was too drunk to care... all things that I consider beneath the positive things I try to sing about.

I told them no.  They were severely disappointed, tried hard to talk me out of it, and my paycheck was cut in half, but I felt better about myself for sticking to my principles.

Answer 9

What I have learned in life is to have every thing in writting.

Do you have a written agreement between yourself and the promoter? If you don't, get one so that this never happens again.

Not only do you need to write what you want but, you also need to write out clearly what you dont need. There are some absolute non -negoiatables.

Besides that, just tell the person what you need to be, which would be that you are not able to do the gig because of ethical circumantances. Be nice and hope that  you can get out of it.

You might have to not show up, but then you risk  a legal case.

Make it clear that as your representive they are not permitted to arrange you for any gig unless you review it first. And bottom line.- the promoter works for you.

You will have to weigh the pros and cons concerning what your pulling out of and what you wouild have to put up with concerning this.

Good Luck

Answer 10

I would try to honour my commitment to the promoter with the best of my abilities under the circumstances. Then I would give the promoter a warning.

Don't do this to me again! I will walk out on you if you do.

Answer 11

Are, the latest buzzz word, ETHICAL. Overused as all buzzwords are.

Answer 12

It is my understanding that a "promoter" is someone you trust to speak on your behalf.  If he or she does not know your true feelings, then they cannot rightly promote you and you may very well end up insulting that person and embarrassing yourself.

Answer 13

be professional do it! you can live by your principals / ethics when your as big as Springsteen, this may be your one chance for the big-time.

you could do a lot for your cause / principle / ethic with fame behind you, use your head luv. lol

Answer 14

Tell him you don't want the gig

Answer 15

That I was not interested in the gig. If you are open about sharing your reasons, then do so. If not, tell him/her that you must keep the reasons to yourself.

Answer 16

I assume you mean that you consider the terms unethical. In that case, it would depend on just -how- unethical I felt them to be. If very, my response to the producer would probably have to be, "You're fired". Otherwise, if I could tolerate the conditions, I'd probably just have a talk with the producer and ask them to respect my wishes in the future.

Answer 17

Get rid of the promoter and get a new one, if you don't like him, what is it about this question that is hard for you to understand.

Answer 18

The truth.

Answer 19

If you have strong ethics about something then its YOUR responsibility to air your opinion and view BEFORE you "employ" someone to arrange anything for you. If you fail to tell them, then really its your fault if they arrange things you then don't ethically agree with. You should say BEFORE things START to get organised and put into place. If you were THAT bothered (ethically) one would assumed you'd check out the ethics, philosophy and mission statement of the potential employee and the company they work for. If you go for a job in a lab... get the job, then get all righteous and ethical about the labs policy on animal testing then its really your own fault for not making enquiry's before hand!

Answer 20

That depends on just how realistic your ethics are.

Answer 21

Well done. Then I'd go out and give the best f**king performance of my life.

Answer 22

That will cost extra.

Answer 23

i would not do the gig and tell them why

Answer 24

3 things to cosider 1st up: The gig, the circumstances, how much money I'd be paid for the gig....

If the circumstances really were against my ethics, I'd tell the promoter I'd arrange for someone else to replace me for that gig.

Answer 25

pi#$@%   OFF

Answer 26

How much will I earn from it?

Answer 27

I would seriously have to consider how much do I need that gig in financial terms, is it enough to sacrifice my beliefs?  That is what you have to ask yourself?  Do you feel comfortable in your choices and to play at the gig?  If the answer is yes, go for it and if unsure, decline or may have regrets in the future.  Have a talk with him so in the future is no issues or misunderstandings, wish you well.

Answer 28

Tell him you don't want the gig.

Easy as that ! ! !

Answer 29

You have answered your own question -

if you think its unethical, you must say "no".

Answer 30

I would decline because I would think that no matter much money was involved I would have to question whenever I used that money about the price attached to that money; in other words I would have to look at my self in the mirror.