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What`s better, karate and judo or kickboxing and jiu-jitsu.?

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I have the choice to train karate, judo or jiu-jitsu and kickboxing. What`s better for conditioning and like real fighting. 1 againts 1 like MMA

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  1. karate(depending on the style,try freestyle) and jujitsu will make you a more well rounded fighter.if you choose kickboxing do muay thai as kick boxing is for girls muay thai is for men.


  2. jits and kickboxing will be good for conditioning. Kickboxing would be better for real fighting.Bjj is a good art to learn, but you need a school that will train you in no-gi bjj, because alot of gi jj techniques will not apply in a real fight.Besides learn it for the art not to fight on the street.

  3. OMG. There is no such thing as a best art. Nor better or worst. They all take you to the same destination, defense. Why do you think these arts were created? To help you DEFEND yourself. All arts will work. It all depends on you and what you like. It depends on your strengths and weaknesses.

  4. kickboxing and jiu-jitsu, especially if the kickboxing is muay thai or savate.

  5. Jiu-jitsu then kick boxing as second choice for me :)***

  6. I think it's the quality of the instruction, not the art that may give you what you seek.



    MMA is a hybrid mixture of techniques deployed.  As far as conditioning goes, it really depends on the teacher, I have one friend who runs 3 hour BJJ classes and another who just does one hour classes with minimal PT.  The amount of conditioning you get depends on the gym you go to.

    Muay Thai, if taught well gives some excellent conditioning.  For street fighting I would pick Muay Thai over kickboxing, as MT  is a real tough art.  Muay Thai is great for both street fighting and in the octagon.  There is a combat version of Muay Thai, which would probably be better for street survival.

    Karate is great depending on the teacher and your ability to learn, after all, many MMA techniques were taken from Karate, Judo, Jiu Jitsu and boxing.  Karate evolves just as other arts do.  An art that stands still ignores the reality of present times.

    I teach Krav Maga but when I first came to the USA I studied Shaolin Kempo from a retired US Marine, he conditioned and taught us well.  I am also a Combat SAMBO student, it's lethality rivals Krav Maga, but it's basis is in Judo, as opposed to boxing and savate.

    Much of what is trained for in a sport art is different from what is done on the street, hence we have combat arts and then we have hybrids, arts in between the two.  So much is dependent on the teacher as opposed to the style.

    I teach a combat art, we work with realistic weapons (bottle, knife, gun, bat).  I study one Combat art in which the teacher is a former Soviet Military instructor again, the weapons we work with are all street weapons.  These weapons are being taught in Kempo as well, because the teachers feel it is necessary for self defense.

    I have seen Karate classes where students don't even form a proper fist, so much is dependent on the teacher.  The students don't really know foot work so they don't know how to move.  Very bad.

    If you want to fight MMA, find a good MMA gym where the owner spends time promoting his fighters, trying to get sponsorships for them as fight training can be a full time job.  Most good MMA gyms are open all day and into the night, they feature MT, BJJ, Wrestling and Boxing.  I'm including a link to a really great MMA gym in my area (Boston, MA).

    As an instructor I try to relate to the students, to see where there are running into sticking points and help. Any good instructor, sensei or whatever will do the same, not by criticizing but by helping.  Joking is cool, humiliating is not.

    Go to all the schools, try a free class and see how it fits with you, how the instructors and students relate.  This stuff is important.  If it's MMA, watch the gym owner, if he is busy promoting some of his fighters, he is doing his job

    Sorry for the long answer, but again use your judgment to pick which classes will be right for you.

  7. i do judo the ground is not as in depth but, it gives you takedowns many people don't expect

  8. I'd go with kickboxing and jiu-jitsu; if you want to compete MMA you NEED to learn practical striking and groundfighting.  Judo is good for throwing but given the choice the skills that you'll learn in jiu-jitsu are WAAAAY more important.

  9. I would say that you should choose kickboxing and jiu-jitsu. The reason being that in karate it can take months before you begin to spar full contact with your opponent. When you do kickboxing, the full contact begins soon after you begin training. Most styles of jiu-jitsu are great because you learn how to grapple fast without all of the bowing and formality of most judo styles.

  10. i would say kickboxing..=]

  11. I do muay thai and jiu jitsu and its the best. There's nothing else like it.

  12. Either one is good,

    Personally, I would take kick boxing and jiu-jitsu, as it works on striking and grappling.

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