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Whats the best odds game in a casino?

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  1. = Actually, although odds are better in blackjack than most games there are lower odds. I am looking at a survey of 169 different blackjack games (variations of rules) in Las Vegas and the best games have a house edge of $1 in $385 (i.e. the house expects to keep $1 for every $385 bet). But that is assuming that play without any mistakes and many of those blackjack games have very high minimums

    [ BTW the most common variant of a  game with that low of an edge is double deck, dealer stands on soft 17, you can double after split, no surrender, and no re-splitting aces]. There is no casino on the strip that still offers a single deck blackjack game with full 3:2 payout. It is difficult to find off strip now.

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    The odds on a "pass line" or a "come" bet in craps can be much better if you take maximum odds. For instance, "Main Street Station" offers 20X odds. If you are willing to put $100 on a come out bet, the house edge is $1 in $1013.  There are an average of  30 "come out" bets per hour in craps. That's much better than blackjack and you don't have to think.

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    Keep in mind that roulette keeps $1 for every $18 bet.

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    Of course "counting cards" in blackjack could improve your odds and potentially throw them in your favor. However, even assuming that the casino turns a blind eye to your card counting, you still need a bankroll in the tens of thousands of dollar, amazing concentration and the risk of losing a lot of money. If you occasionally miscount you could actually make your odds worse. The MIT team made their money 15 years ago. In those years the casino's have changed a lot of rules of the game to make it much harder.

    - Most card counters are have big backers. The original card counter in the early 60's got all of his money from a mobster. He doubled the guy's money, but his buddy prevented him from getting beat up. He made his real fortune writing the book "Beat the Dealer", not by actually beating the dealer. In the early 1960's casinos played single deck, dealer stands on soft 17, and they played all the way through the deck of cards.  It was at the end of the deck that card counters made their big money.


  2. So far only one correct answer and many erroneous ones!  The "Best Odds' in the casino is when you 'back' your pass-line wager on Craps.  This bet is in addition to your pass line bet and this varies from casino to casino.  As Vegas Matt stated Casino Royale offers 100X odds.  This means that if you pass line wager is $1, then you may place and additional wager of $100 behind the pass line wager.  This additional wager is paid true odds in the event that you win.  There is ZERO house edge on that portion of your wager.

  3. Blackjack has the least house edge, but there is still an edge for the house.

  4. We peg Blackjack as a variable % game with variations from -1% to -7%.

    The pass line with odds can get down to .4% some casinos off 100X odds.

    Bacaratt is abot 1.3 % for the bank and 1.4 for the player.

  5. red or black on roulette: 9:19

    closest to 50/50 you can get.

    also, in my experience, paigow. the chance for a tie is so high, the casinos have to take a 5% commission. usually, over half the games end in ties. i would say, roughly, you have a 20% chance to win, 60% chance to tie, 20% chance to lose.

    [edit] i think everybody mis-read the question. the asker was asking about the best odds, not the lowest house edge. if you have 12 and the dealer is showing a 10, that's a bad bet, way below 50/50. if you have 20 and the dealer is showing a 6, that's a high odds bet. however, you can't guarantee one or the other in any given hand. consistently, roll after roll, the only bet close to 50/50 is the red/black on roulette.

  6. As a few other responses correctly noted, craps is the best odds game in the casino, hands down.  It is the ONLY game in the casino with a true 50/50 proposition bet, called the Odds bet.  The Odds bet, made in conjunction with Line bets or Come/Don't Come bets, is paid off precisely as the probabilities dictate, leaving you with a bet that has NO house advantage, 50/50, just like the toss of a coin.

    However, as mentioned, the bet must be made in conjunction with a Line bet or Come/Don't Come bet.  The object is to put as little on the Line or Come/Don't Come as possible and load up the Odds bet to decrease the house advantage.  Example: a straight Pass Line bet comes burdened with a house advantage of 1.41%.  Add a double Odds bet to that (twice the Pass Line bet) and you decrease the house advantage to .61%!

    You can do the same thing with "wrong betting" (betting against the shooter) and attain even smaller house advantages, but as farien3 correctly states, you won't make any friends at the table that way, and the object is to win AND have fun, right?

  7. Only "James P" was correct. Played in a certain way, (the 'don't pass' line), Craps has the lowest house odds at less than 2%. Playing the "don't pass" line however is boring, slow, and is basically a grind-out way to gamble. Also, the "donts" players (as they're called), are the least popular humans in a casino. It's widely believed that they have no personal hygiene, are bitter, angry, unpleasant to be with, don't have girlfriends, and will end up dead in unmarked graves.

  8. Black Jack is the only game, have you not seen 21 jebus christ.

  9. Blackjacks odds fluctuate depending on the concentraion of ten values in the deck, the average house advantage is 5.6%. craps however has a consistent house advantage of just over 1 percent, playing on the pass or dont pass lines.

  10. If you want the CORRECT answer, read this post, and none of the other ones:

    The best odds are ALWAYS on the pass or don't pass line with odds at the craps table. The typical Las Vegas casino has 3x4x5x odds, which reduces the house edge to below .38%. This is better than any blackjack game you will find anywhere. If you play at a 10x casino (any of the Stations and Sam's Town has at least this much) that number drops to below .2%. And if you play 100x odds as Casino Royale, the house edge is a mere .02%.

    And don't forget, even if you find the perfect blackjack game with that low .4% edge, you must play perfect basic strategy to get that out of the game. 95% of people who play blackjack do not play correctly, and a player can easily double that number (or more) by playing wrong.

    Of course, it is possible to reduce or eliminate the house edge by counting cards, but since you're asking this question, you obviously don't have the knowledge or skill to do that yet, so the point is moot.

  11. Blackjack CAN have the best odds, but let me expalin the catch.

    The house advantage will vary from about 0.4%-1.6% depending on the rules, most games fall in the 0.4-0.65% range of hosue advantage.

    You will only be playing wiht these house advantages if you play PERFECT playing strategy, falure to take advantage of the ability to split doubel or surrender when avaialbel will make the house advantage grow larger and approach a number around 7% depending on how many plays you miss.

    a house edge of 7% makes it almost the worst game i the casino.  Doubling splitting and surrendering when it is not ideal to do so, will make the house edge grow even larger from the 7% mark.

    So while blackjack has the potential to be the best game and offer little profits for the casino  it is only if you play perfect strategy, and even be beaten by card counters,the casinos love it and offer it since the average player has no idea what they are doing and they make hordes of money off of it.

    To learn blackjack playing strategy buy a strategy card and use it verbatim, or goto http://hitorstand.net and learn there.

    If you do not wish to learn playing straetgy the pass/dont pass line on a craps table has a house advantage not far from 1% as does the player/banker bets in baccarat, the banker bet is the better of the two, though i dont recal the actual number for them.

  12. BLACKJACK....ALWAYS

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