Whats the best technique to use once you pass the guard of someone a lot bigger and stronger than you?

Question

"Sensei"- what is the point in making unhelpful assumptions about my situation or my sensei? I have not been training for years, and have certainly not spent a lot of money. I recently started traditional Ju-Jitsu and am just trying to get to grips with some groundwork, which we don't do an awful lot of. My sensei is very helpful when I can't do a technique, but I can't train as often as I would like to atm, so I'm doing theory at home first.

Not that it's any of your business or anything....

Answer 1

its a beginner move but the standing guard pass works well. Just remember to stack them and keep a wide base and the shouldn't be able to sweep you.

Answer 2

easy! as a girl i am a tad bit smaller than the boys, so what i do is push away their hand as the punch and get them in the stomach! works like a charm!

Answer 3

Straight down ward punches full force since you'll be in top mount, keep your hands off of the mat ( key rule and way too many are all over the mat with their f****** hands these day ), control the opponent's upperbody movement, posture up when you can and strike often with straight down ward punches.  I hate "elbows" unless the opponent has you pulled in tight then couple elbows with short hammer strikes. I hate it when I hear coaches and fans yelling "Bows man Bows!!" that sh*t irritates me.  I also like any neck crank attempt from top mount make him kiss his chest!!  who knows you might get lucky. If you end up in side mount instead then "crucifix" the opponent and put him away with strikes.  Always straight downward striking from top mount it should always be a key rule ( not elbows ) because sraight down ward shots are more damaging than elbow strikes on the ground.  Fan's don't know it, but it's never the solid elbows that open cuts brother, it's the grazing elbow that catches half lucky that opens up cuts when it comes to elbows.  Straight down ward punches are brutal and very effective until the opponent goes to a balled up "fetal position" where you can begin to take advantage of every little mistake from there. Air way obstruction is a favorite too ( Zapping oxygen and adrenaline ).  While in top mount. If you could get that "body triangle" sunk in tight as the opponent turns away from the sraight down ward strikes then you're in major business brother.  Always looking for that submission though you know what I'm saying? straight down ward strikes and Boom!! hop into a straight arm bar very quickly.  When you're in top mount there's only one thought and that is ...."gee this dude's eating these shots like candy wow this is really f****** neat...what's he going to stay here all day?"  ....."wow" ROTFL.......... and I ain't sweating height or his limbs bro those strikes will take a sh*t load of  any energy he may have to stop the domination right out of him, all while I hum my favorite tune too.

unless we're talking kiddie stuff on the mat at ye ole' judo dojo.....hehehehe.......

Any fighter that says he don't have time to think thoughts out loud is a liar.  How else are you going to remain calm the entire boubt?..................... Liar!!!

Answer 4

to sum it up very easly, you need to become like a 2nd skin on your oppent. the closer you are to them the less they can do to you cause you have just blocked out there reach and part of there arsenole

Answer 5

Immediately hold a solid, stable side mount position.  A way bigger, stronger opponent can practically bench press you off so stay tight and heavy.  The chances of slapping on a Kimura or Americana in this position against a way stronger opponent aren't very high so don't over commit.  Keep your knee tight against their hip and keep the other knee right next to their head...keep it stuck to the head like if you wanna give them some mad cauliflower ear...the discomfort often makes the opponent turn away making for a fair distraction.  Try to have the opponent's arm pinned down under your shin also and keep pressure on it...this keeps you in total control because they only have one arm to use.  Work some distractions to try to achieve full mount (pretend to lock in a Kimura).  Don't make the knee to belly too obvious...slide it across, toes pointing down...if you're smaller, it kind of just slides into full mount.  I prefer to go the other way...this is quite effective...when achieving side mount, with the arm that is further away (the one next to your opponent's legs), reach under the opponent's armpit and grap over their shoulder (to the arm you have right under you)...stay stuck to your opponent by using your shoulder to keep your opponent pinned...if you have this tight, your opponent should not be able to shrimp into you at all because of the pressure your shoulder is applying (it may seem like you won't be able to hold them because it's only your shoulder holding them down, but you're also controlling the arm entirely...the control provides the necessary leverage to hold any big opponent down with the pressure from your shoulder)...begin to step over the opponents head...keep holding on to the arm; as you step over, you notice it easily turns into a kimura...a smart opponent will begin to defend it and remember you mentioned they are strong so if they're resisting, you'll notice the other arm is right there in perfect position for an armbar...all you have to do is let go of the kimura, and grab the arm as you fall back all in one motion...many opponents are so concerned and distracted with the kimura attempt that they just leave that other arm their for you take and break off...so take it!  You don't even have to bring the leg over their chest unless you want to...you can just shove your foot underneath their shoulder blade.  I hope this is clear for ya!  Sorry for the novel!

Answer 6

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Answer 7

Once you are past the guard you need to establish a solid side control first. Keep your weight heavy on your opponent and start working to isolate an arm and apply an Americana or Kimura, at the same time you can try to work an arm across for the arm triangle as well. www.submissions101.com and www.lockflow.com have a lot of technique tutorials you can check out. The BEST idea is to ask your instructor or one of the higher ranking students at your gym.

Answer 8

There is no magic to it. If you're in a pure grappling contest, you just have to fight your way out of it. Posture up, and either just stand and try to pass to the side.

Answer 9

If your "training" makes you have to think about that, then you wasted many years and a lot of money.

You got taken for all you had!

Nobody likes to hear this but it is too bad!

Your "teacher" has no real martial skill.

Answer 10

The best thing to do after passing your opponents guard, lighter or heavier than you, is to establish a good side control. Because people will immediately try to get an elbow and knee into you, I'm ready to hip-in to kesa gatama right after I pass. Doing so will effectively block their elbow escape.

From there, I'd try to grind out my opponent (especially if he's heavier) and make him waste energy. If he tries to get a knee in there or bridge me off, I'd just turn my hips towards his into a reverse-kesa gatama. From there, I've got an easy transition into mount or I can just turn back into sidemount, if I'd prefer to work from there.

Regardless, the key is to hold him down and make him expend energy. Yet, while being heavy on him, you'd also have to be ready to move around and transition between sidemount, kesa gatama, reverse kesa gatama, and north-south until you can get to mount. Against even a smaller guy, staying in one place too long will allow him to escape. But against somebody bigger and stronger, doing so is a great way to get bridged over by their brute strength.

Oh, and as somebody else mentioned, asking your instructor what to do would be best, as he/she will probably have better advice for you than an internet forum.

PS: I really mean kazure kesa gatame, where you get an far-side underhook. I don't like using normal kesa gatama in no-gi since people use their underhooks to spin out and take my back.

EDIT:

Oh, and on the topic of transitioning to mount, an easy one is to go into reverse kesa gatame (so your front is facing away from your opponents head), slap their far leg down wards you, meanwhile stepping over them. Very few people see that one coming, and its pretty hard to defend -- even if they're trying to wedge their knee into your hip.