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When did Universal Health Care become free and or government healthcare?

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Why do so many believe that in order for health care to be accessible to everyone, it needs to be free and or government regulated?

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  1. because a lot of people are becoming unemployed (like myself) and can't afford health insurance.


  2. I don't know, I think the majority approves it now because almost over 40% of americans have no insurance or do not have adequate medical insurance.  53% of bankruptcies are from medical bills.  Scary facts, it's a national concern.

    But, actually, we were the ones that first proposed universal healthcare by Teddy Roosevelt (in 1901) -- and internationally countries started going that direction, we just never got it through congress.

  3. Don't know, but you're right that it does not. There is one plan out there that achieves MORE than UHC does without the waste, government overregulation, etc. Wish people would seriously check out:

    That means preventative care (physical with follow up). Real medication (no Medicare "donut holes" the really ill are ripped off again.) No bogus ridiculously low "caps" on needed medical procedures. No abuse of the ER. No paying for the silly with the sniffles to go to the doc for free. No more bankruptcies over medical bills. I want THIS plan that ends abuse of the taxpayer, takes the burden off employers, provides price transparency, and ends the rip-off of the US taxpayer at the hands of greedy insurance CEOs (which has been repeatedly documented).

    http://www.booklocker.com/books/3068.htm...

    Read the PDF, not the blurb, for the bulk of the plan. Book is searchable on Amazon.com

    Cassandra Nathan's Save America, Save the World

    Basically what you get is the Medicare, Medicaid, SCHIP programs all rolled into one and OPENED UP to all US citizens and legal residents.

    It's a CATASTROPHIC CARE PLUS plan.

    Everyone on it gets:

    one physical

    one follow up visit

    IF needed one ER visit

    with co-pays per year

    DISCOUNTED prescription meds based on negotiation and bulk buying--savings passed on.

    Because it is TRULY affordable, the PREMIUM, CO-PAYS, and what constitutes "catastrophic expense" are ALL needs-based. Therefore, the retired poor, disabled (who are usually poor), and working poor could find that $2K in a year is THEIR catastrophic trigger. Someone with an excellent job and benefits could find his level is $10K--so if he is hit with a heart attack or cancer he won't go bankrupt.

    Funding IS explained in the book and resolves taxpayer abuse right now. No new taxes for people. No employer mandates. No fines. None of that nonsense is needed.

    Nathan would also REQUIRE price transparency--prices MUST be posted for procedures. People can shop around and get the best deal as they do with EVERYTHING else in life--NO more surprises.

    All private insurance can still exist--doesn't change that at all. However ALL insurance plans MUST abide by contract law which is ROUTINELY violated with impunity now with legit claims being denied.

    Antitrust laws would also be enforced--but, again, with this new insurance, that would make a massive positive change.

    KEY point: we would greatly increase the number of slots to MED school, as well as nursing and other allied health fields. NOW we turn away THOUSANDS of well-qualified students. That is stupid. It leads to a great evil that the world pays for--we fill 25% of our residencies with grads from foreign med schools. That means we STEAL from poorer countries who probably PAID the med school ed of the student and will NEVER get a doctor out of the bargain. We also end up with non-native speakers unfamiliar with American culture and mistakes and problems arise. VERY bad policy all around--no one wins. We also ROUTINELY RAID nurses from other countries--with a worldwide shortage of nurses, this is WRONG.

    IF we lacked qualified Americans you might want to try to justify this idiocy. We don't. It's immoral AND costly to everyone.

    Nathan discusses making the ed more affordable as well.

    Anyone LEGALLY here (such as foreign students) would be eligible for the plan.

    Illegals are NOT to be covered or given any benefits, but there is something addressing their bills. As ER abuse is addressed in general, they wouldn't be getting away with stiffing the taxpayer like they do now anyway AND you'd see a reduction in the accounting games that hospitals pull as well.

  4. Honestly people in this country are becoming increasingly uninformed about the issues such as this one, and people would rather be led than for them to lead themselves because they know they won't have to think about things because they know they will be taken care of.  Now that said, people believe that universal healthcare should be free or government involved because the general public doesn't know of any alternatives.

  5. well, If the government vdoes not pay for healthcare for all the people that can not afford it , Who will? The answer is Noone. So if you see guarenteed heathcare ( which we already have to an extent, a hospital can not turn you away for a life thraening injury or illness regardless of ability to pay)

    Anyway, if eeryone gets medical care , someone has to pay.... That would be you and me, NO thanks I work my *** off for my money and the governemnt already steals half at gunpoint. Keep your socialism.

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