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When do you think the U.S. will attack Iran with their Armada?

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We can't be off shore wasting fuel for no reason can we?

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  1. Muslim are good, God will help muslim people.


  2. People, there have been constant signs the US intends to attack Iran over the last six weeks.  The main ones offhand:

    --> Finally negotiating with Iran, then saying a week and a day ago "you rejected our very generous offer, now there will be consequences

    --> House Concurrent Resolution 362 which

       "demands that the President initiate an international effort to immediately and dramatically increase the economic, political, and diplomatic pressure on Iran to verifiably suspend its nuclear enrichment activities by, inter alia, prohibiting the export to Iran of all refined petroleum products; imposing stringent inspection requirements on all persons, vehicles, ships, planes, trains, and cargo entering or departing Iran; and prohibiting the international movement of all Iranian officials not involved in negotiating the suspension of Iran's nuclear program;"

    --> a nearly identical bill (Senate Resolution 580) which says "this will in no way be construed to involve the use of force" but if you succeeded in carrying out this direction, Iran would have to attack or watch its economy and gov't collapse.   The key thing is that the bills call for _every container_ entering the country to be searched.  Doesn't say "from the US and other cooperating parties".  Everyone's cargoes.  How can the US do that without slapping a blockade around Iran ? (A blockade is an act of war)

    --> Everyone  (Obama, McCain, Bush, Rice, Clinton) in the US in the last two months has been saying that "Israel must be protected at all costs".  In various ways, they say that war with Iran is what will come if that's the only way to protect Israel.    They talk like this will be inevitable, too.  Even Prime Minister Gordon Brown gave a warning to Iran about attacking Israel would be intolerable. (Given Britain is pretty antisemitic this was a bad joke.)

    The thing is Iran is a minimum of a year away from nukes.  And that's assuming you want to believe the same people who lied about Iraq's WMD's.  This is a serious but not imminent problem, but they're talking like they'll fight Iran asap.

    --> Senator Gary Hart warned the Iranian President that America has a long history of drumming up false pretexts for war.  he claimed no threat was implied or intended.

    --> Vice President d**k Cheney mused recently about making fake Iranian patrol boats, putting US special forces on them, and having the fake boats attack the US fleet so a war could start.

    --> Operation Brimstone, a huge three battle group multinational naval exercise (one of the biggest ones in modern times) just finished.  It included light naval amphibious assault craft like the type you'd use in the Persian gulf.  The forces in it are nearly exactly the same ones offshore Iran now.

    Conclusion:

    I think they're going to either attack sometime in the next few days; possibly at the new moon (for military advantage for a night attack) or middle of October just before Topoff, a huge antiterrorism exercise in planned in the USA.  There will be a simulation of dirty bombs going off in Guam, Phoenix, AZ and Portland, OR.    Given that in London, on 7/7 the reason the gov't responded so efficiently was "we were running an antiterrorism exercise that pretty much exactly matched the terrorist attack", I am very scared that Bush will declare war, then have some black ops teams do the dirty bombings and say "see those dirty Iranians used WMD's!  " and then declare martial law as per Presidential Directive 51.  Note how the text of this is vague on several key points, like how martial law starts, how it ends, and who decides these matters.

    (I'll edit in sources later but I can footnote all the basic facts)

    Re: Mr. Wise.  Not with five battlegroups sitting off their coast they haven't.

  3. Justin, YOUR AN IDIOT, the U.S. will not attack Iran or anyone else unless provoked, Iran has threatened their neighbors with nuclear weapons', and unfortunately their neighbors are our friends do you understand

  4. The US has no intent whatsoever to attack Iran. All the US wants is peace in the region. With the Shites getting the power in Iraq there is no need to bother these folks. As far as the president of Iran and his rantings, we all know who really runs that country. As far as these nuclear facility's it is yet another wild bluff these people pull to seem powerful. They could be powerful indeed if they would let God work for them.Instead they let the devil dictate his agenda there.

  5. The US won't do it, Isreal will, or even more likely, Iran will attack Israel.  The US will have no choice but to become heavily involved, because of our oil needs and our international relations with so many countries that will be affected.

    I hope and pray it does not happen, because it will be a mess, will directly affect all of us and will probably change American life as we know it, permanently and for the worse.

  6. The US Fifth Fleet has been in that area for many years.

  7. We have to be somewhere wasting fuel. Why not in the arm pit of the world where all the problems are?

  8. When Iran attacks Israel.

  9. before bush lives the white house one more thing you said somthing about wasting fuel you do no the ONLY  reson is tring to have a war with iran is becuase of there oil u do no that first iraq now iran  

  10. yep, raymondo got it, when Israel is attacked

    I am dreading the inevitable....

  11. Nope.

    They're just doing the Iraq thing.

    Those magnificent Israelis and their flying machines are going to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities.

  12. ya you have`nt the $$$$ to do any think Else

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