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When does someone loose there salvation in jesus christ?

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I dont really belive that once saved always saved, it contradicts the bible in many verses.. so when does one actually loose there salvation with jesus christ. I would like to hear peoples opinion on the subject

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  1. The person who is truly saved never loses their salvation. The verses in the Bible which appear to contradict the philosophy of once saved, always saved do not refer to salvation, but to sanctification.

    To believe one can lose what God has given is to call God a liar and a weakling in the face of our sin.

    John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.


  2. When after reading the Bible for 20 years went and read Carl Sagan the "Demon Haunted World". That was pretty much it for me.  

  3. When they commit a grave infraction of the law of God, constituting a turn away from God, and refusing by their own free choice, to be converted from sin, even to the end of their lives.

  4. They were never saved by the Father then because once saved by him he cannot take that back.  It's simple,  they were never really anointed.

  5. When the screws are not tightened properly.

  6. on judgment day

  7. YOU ARE CORRECT.

    If you read a book called "Bait of Satan" by John Bevere, it explains a lot about this and my analogy might make more sense.

    If you are strongly rooted (your faith is strong) you will not loose your salvation based on your commitment to God, etc.

    But is you are weak-rooted, and the strong wind blows, surely you will be uprooted and loose your faith, salvation, etc.

    So if you were weak rooted, and have lost your salvation, you lost it and cannot re-attain it until...

    -You have stopped the repeated sinning that has caused you to unroot.

    -If you committed the "Unpardonable Sin" which is another issue, said to be when you blaspheme the Holy Spirit, but I believe this is when you forbid the Holy Spirit from coming into your heart

    -Asked forgiveness from God, people you have wronged, and forgiven yourself

    I hope this helps.

  8. I'm sorry I don't know. But only, what I want to say is "JUST PUT YOUR FAITH AND TRUST IN GOD AND DO ALL YOUR DUTIES WELL... AND HE WILL DO THE REST" "NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD" always remember this.

    I hope this could help you =) godbless..

  9. Once a believer, its kind of difficult to separate yourself from the Lord.  Even though you try to turn your back on Him, He continues to guide you back.  

    Luke 15 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?

  10. Right after Santa Claus finishes delivering all his presents, if you catch my drift.

  11. All this confusion on "Being Saved" comes along when a person realizes that after they have been told that they are saved they find that they are not much different than before they were saved.

    And the real answer to this dilemma is that they never went through a complete transformation in the first place!! This is why so many even try a second time, thinking that they might have missed something.

    They didn't miss anything. They are simply being taught Paul's gospel which was not the Original Gospel.

    Paul's gospel does not bring the transformation that comes from the Kingdom Gospel. Confused? This will explain what I am talking about: http://gospelenigma.com It will give details on how to go about getting the real transformation that Jesus talked about in the Sermon on the Mount.

  12. It is IMPOSSIBLE to lose or "leave" salvation (1 John 5:13).

    How do you get salvation?  By believing that Jesus, who is God, died for our sins on the cross and rose from the dead.

    Adding nothing, taking away nothing.

    So then what can you do, or fail to do, to lose or "leave" salvation?

    Eternal life cannot end.  If eternal life can end, then it has the wrong name.  

    In other words, until a person believes that what he has received from the Lord Jesus is permanent and cannot be lost, he might not yet be born again. A person cannot believe in Christ alone for his eternal destiny and also believe that he must do something (or avoid doing something) to keep it.

  13. Well, you can't lose salvation spontaneously.  You have to sin after salvation and refuse to ask for forgiveness and repent.

  14. (Joh 10:28) "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."

    It is very easy to get confused on this doctrine. We must remember that our Salvation is not based on man's doing, but in the work of Christ. Salvation is by grace through faith in Christ. If someone can't do anything to gain their Salvation, then how could someone do anything to loose it.

  15. Never, because all are saved.

  16. A person looses salvation when they no longer cling to Christ as their Lord and Savior. The argument that the once saved always saved group must put up to defend their position is that the person who walks away from Christ was probably not saved in the first place. So we are left with two options, either we can know we are saved so long as we persist, or we can persist until we know we are saved. In other words, we may have assurance of our salvation, but could loose it, or we keep our salvation but can not really know until the end whether or not we are saved.

  17. When the moon is full.

  18. When they learn the difference between "Lose" and "Loose"

  19. The Bible teaches very definitely that once a person becomes saved, they can never lose their salvation. However, we have to understand what true salvation is. A person does not become saved by accepting Christ, or calling on His name, or repenting, or believing on Christ, etc. These are all works that a person does, and a person does not get saved by his works (Ephesians 2:8-10).

    When God truly saves a person, He makes them born again (John 3:3), and turns them into a new creature in Christ (II Corinthians 5:17). He gives them a new soul in which they are indwelt by Christ (Romans 8:9). In this new soul, they will never want to sin again (Romans 7:22; II Corinthians 5:17).

    People who think they were saved because they accepted Christ or whatever usually have moments where they fall away, and then they think they might have lost their salvation. In actuality, they probably never were saved.

    John 10:27-29: My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me:

    And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

    My Father, which gave them Me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of My Father's hand.

    True salvation can never be lost.

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