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When i send myself to h**l for not believing, can i still claim god loves me?

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if ya know what i mean...

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  1. God loves you! Its just tough love! Forbidden fruit WAS eaten thousands of years ago! He must punish mankind because of Adam and Eve's mistakes!

    Him sending you to h**l and allowing you to suffer is just his way of showing he truly cares.


  2. That 'd be contradictory.

  3. Yes.

    I believe you answered your own question when you mentioned sending yourself to h**l for not believing. God does not want anyone to go to h**l, however when we choose to not believe in Him we do condemn ourselves.  

  4. You might get some jealous faces.

  5. you can and you will. when in h**l you will eventually come to the realization that god put you there because he loves you. not because he hates you for not believing in him. getting into heaven is simple and there is only one deal breaker. everyone will eventually confess there love for god. dont believe me? then you will just have to play the waiting game.

  6. It won't make much difference, Satan won't want you either! hahaa!

  7. You can claim God loves you but it would not be true if you fail to believe.

  8. It is not in doubt whether God loves you, but do you love Him enough to do as He commanded?

  9. yes you can

    I will allow it...  *evil laugh*

  10. um....ok... God will always love you. But the thing is... if you loved him and obeyed him would you be in h**l?

  11. First off, it's highly presumptive to assume you're going to h**l when you die. Only God knows how you'll be judged.

    Secondly, God loves you so much He gave you free will. That's why there is a h**l, because God had to create a place for Satan where God was NOT. God allows every man decide for himself whether he will choose God. It's like a parent who loves you so much that, when you leave their house and tell them you never want to talk to you again, they let you go, but keep the line open until you purposefully close off all access to them.

    h**l is a place of suffering not because God made it a place of fire etc. etc., but because He made it a place where He isn't: as God is love, and man needs love to live, h**l is a place of dying.

  12. Physical (body and mind) death. When death overtakes a human being, the Adjuster remains in the citadel of the mind until it ceases to function as an intelligent mechanism, about the time that the measurable brain energies cease their rhythmic vital pulsations. Following this dissolution the Adjuster takes leave of the vanishing mind, just as unceremoniously as entry was made years before, and proceeds to Divinington by way of Uversa.

    After death the material body returns to the elemental world from which it was derived, but two nonmaterial factors of surviving personality persist: The pre-existent Thought Adjuster, with the memory transcription of the mortal career, proceeds to Divinington; and there also remains, in the custody of the destiny guardian, the immortal morontia soul of the deceased human. These phases and forms of soul, these once kinetic but now static formulas of identity, are essential to repersonalization on the morontia worlds; and it is the reunion of the Adjuster and the soul that reassembles the surviving personality, that reconsciousizes you at the time of the morontia awakening.

    For those who do not have personal seraphic guardians, the group custodians faithfully and efficiently perform the same service of identity safekeeping and personality resurrection. The seraphim are indispensable to the reassembly of personality.Upon death the Thought Adjuster temporarily loses personality, but not identity; the human subject temporarily loses identity, but not personality; on the mansion worlds both reunite in eternal manifestation. Never does a departed Thought Adjuster return to earth as the being of former indwelling; never is personality manifested without the human will; and never does a dis-Adjustered human being after death manifest active identity or in any manner establish communication with the living beings of earth. Such dis-Adjustered souls are wholly and absolutely unconscious during the long or short sleep of death. There can be no exhibition of any sort of personality or ability to engage in communications with other personalities until after completion of survival. Those who go to the mansion worlds are not permitted to send messages back to their loved ones. It is the policy throughout the universes to forbid such communication during the period of a current dispensation.

  13. Yes. But you can't validate your own parking.

  14. Friend, the entire doctrine of "h**l" was brought into Christianity through Egyptian, Greek, and Roman religions.  The scriptures as originally written do not teach of any ridiciulous place of actual fire where the God of love will torture most humans forever.  That's nonsense.

    There are many translations today that are removing the word "h**l" from their pages and transliterating the actual words (Sheol, Hades, Tartaroo, Gehenna) in its place, because none of the original words meant what "h**l" means today.

    This is what happens to the wicked after their resurrection:

    Rev 20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

    Revelation is a book of SYMBOLS.  How do we KNOW that the "lake of fire" is NOT a literal lake of fire?  Because...

    Rev 20:14  And DEATH and h**l were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

    "Death" cannot be cast into an actual fire.  Also note how "h**l" is cast into the lake of fire.  ???  Isn't "h**l" the same thing as the lake of fire?  Ah, that Christians would ponder such things more.  Anyway, here's what happens when one is cast into SYMBOLIC fire:

    1Co 3:15  If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

    The gospel (good news) of Jesus Christ is that he is the savior of the WORLD; it pretty darn good at his job (of SAVING the WORLD); and will one day do so.

    God bless.

  15. I believe all will be revealed and we will truth know...

    Rom 14:11   For it is written, [As] I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

    extreme anguish and utter despair

    Luk 13:28   There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you [yourselves] thrust out.  

    gnashing (English)

    brygmos (Greek)

    1) a gnashing of teeth

    .....a) used to denote extreme anguish and utter despair of men consigned to eternal punishment in h**l

    2) snarling, growling: in the sense of biting

    Without excuse

    Rom 1:20   For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

    God is righteous and his judgments are just...

    Rev 16:7   And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous [are] thy judgments.

    Screaming and being tortured for all eternity?

    Rev 21:8   But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

    Rev 20:14   And death and h**l were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

    One will simply cease to exist.

    I doubt that you will blame God.

    ~God bless

  16. Yes God loves everyone

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