When will electric cars have common power supply for quick exchange?

Question

If there where a common battery pack for electric cars, then the spent batteries could be excanged at a station like cars cuurently stop at gas stations. With the e/car range problem solved, there's NO reason to pursue other technologies and the gas powered pesonal vehicle can die a quick death! Can somebody pass this on to Elon Musk?

Answer 1

The cars would have to be  designed for fast access and a crane at the station to lift them. A battery with sufficient power to move a car for over 100 miles must weigh a ton.

Answer 2

The range problem has been solved with packs that give a range >200 miles & can be recharged in 10 minutes.

http://www.altairnano.com/markets_amps.h...

(and if you don't stop for a break after 200 miles then you are driving dangerously)

or you could tow a trailer like the long ranger http://www.acpropulsion.com/tzero/

swapping batteries is possible, but there are diffuclties with high current connectors wearing and making poor contact/overheating; plus handeling issues with the weight, and the variable value and condition of the batteries being swapped

Answer 3

2015

Answer 4

I don't swap out my barbecue propane tank because I might get a crappy one in trade.   I wouldn't swap out my 5,000 dollar battery pack for the same reason.

Answer 5

Things like that have been talked about.   More likely is that we will have batteries that can be charged quickly and charging stations.

Phoenix Motorcars has a battery made by Altairnano, which can be charged in 10 minutes with a special 440 volt charger.  It's onboard 110 volt plug in charger takes 6 hours.

Another idea that has been discussed is for power companies to buy up used electric car batteries for storing energy.  Apparently the batteries will have plenty of life left when they are no longer strong enough to run the car.  This could conceivably reduce the up front cost of the car's battery as this would be pro rated, or discounted when the car is sold.  

Electric cars are already sufficient for use as local delivery vehicles and such.   Phoenix sees farmers and ranchers using their utility pickup as job trucks.  Also, industrial, construction and mining sites could use them the same way.

I think plug in hybrid electrics, PHEV, are the best bet for the time being.  

Plug in Partners has a lot of info.

http://www.pluginpartners.org/

"Plug-In Hybrids

Gas: Optional

Plug-In Hybrid Electric Vehicles (PHEVs) are outfitted with a battery pack sufficient to power the vehicle from 20 to 60 miles on battery charge alone. Considering that half the cars on America’s roads are driven 25 miles a day or less, a plug-in with a 25-mile range battery could eliminate gasoline use in the daily commute of millions of Americans. The cost of an equivalent electric gallon of gas is estimated to be less than $1.00."

"Gets about twice the fuel economy of a conventional vehicle and 30-50% better fuel economy than a standard hybrid

Plugs into a standard (120-volt) home electrical outlet to receive charge

Depending on design and battery size can be driven 20 to 60 miles without the use of gasoline "

"PHEVs outfitted with a battery pack providing a 40-mile electric range could power, using the all-electric mode, more than 60% of the total annual miles traveled by the average American driver."

And our electric grid, while not as clean as we would like it, is still much cleaner than using gasoline or diesel.

"Additionally, plug-in hybrids, like conventional hybrids, don’t idle when sitting still. Estimates are that in urban driving, idling translates to about 10%-15% of total vehicle carbon emissions."

  "A motorist driving 9,000 annual gasoline-free miles and 3,000 using gasoline would get

100 mpg  (based on vehicles that get 25 mpg)."

Answer 6

OTIS was making busses with battery packs that could be quickly swapped out in the 1970's.  By far the most practical battery for cars was the revolutionary Nickel Metal Hydride ("NiMH") battery.  Chevron, in cooperation with its partner GM bought the company and patents, and closed the production line.