Where's the feminist logic?

Question

Some girls keep trying to explain feminism to me, but some pieces just don't add up. If women are equal to men, why aren't they equal anywhere I can think of? Don't say it's because men oppressed them, because that's circular logic. If women were more capable of running the government, they would have been the ones who created it to begin with.

My questions stands. What evidence is there indicating women should be equal to men?

Answer 1

Positions of power are held by men in all societies because men are wired to seek out high-status roles.  I think men will always predominate in those roles because they are naturally inclined that way.

I disagree with the person who said that in the past women were of value only to the family and not to society.  The seperation of home and workplace that is considered normal nowadays was not normal in the pre-industrial era, and women were very much involved in the world of business as well as home, since the two were intertwined.  Houses were not 'homes' as we understand the term nowadays, they were more like small factories, where the work of production both for home and for the marketplace was done.

Answer 2

Feminism is about creating equal opportunities for both men and women socially economically and politically. duh-Opportunity has not been equal in the US when women couldn't hold a political office until they could vote-in 1920-which is more than a hundred years after white men got the vote and still a few decades after black men got the vote. By then US white men had held all of the political offices for over 100 years plus society still questions today whether women are too emotional to handle positions of political power-as witnessed by the sexist questions asked about Hillary Clinton during the last year. I don't call that equal opportunity or equality-but I'll bet you think that's a-ok based on your "logic".

Economically-US women couldn't apply for jobs thought of as "male jobs" until the 1970's (and vice versa)-when a Supreme Court decision finally forced jobs to be advertised without being separated by gender-finally jobs were not advertised as solely a male vs female job. The equal pay act (equal pay for equal work regardless of gender) wasn't passed until 1963 and it still isn't enforced very well as evidenced by Walmart being sued over the last few years for pay discrimination by 1.6 million of their female employees.

Prior cultures have had women in leadership roles through out their societies as well as some of our present cultures. Just because the US is a sexist society does not mean that women can't have equal opportunities or be equal to men-it just means that Americans aren't able to get over their sexist attitudes towards both women and men and therefore aren't willing to enforce the laws they do have that promote equality. It's difficult to achieve equality without societal support for providing opportunities for equality-especially economically and politically.

Answer 3

You are willfully obtuse.  But you are in luck.  There are many g*y men who would still date you.  Okay, a few g*y men.

Answer 4

One of the Issues I have with feminism, and by extention the people who argue against feminism in the terms you have described, is that they measure "equality" based on roles traditionaly given to men. Positions of power and legal power have been given to men in Society in exchange for protection and power over the household in woman. Men may be considered the head of the household, but when they are out 9-10 hours a day in the fields or government building who is realy in charge? This seperation of powers have worked very well for thousands of years and with modern advances in medicine. agriculture and commerce, the harshness of life that once existed and neccessitated this seperation has been lifted. Now woman can pursue more options, such as working and need the legal rights afford to a wage earner. They are not confined to a role in the family. Feminists, in an effort to create oppurtunities for themselves, have distanced themselves from and demonized the old way of doing things to advance thier agenda of increasing woman's roles in the work place.

We are still in a transition period from when woman were considered primarily in terms of value to a family and not society as a whole. Things are changing but Men still generaly hold seats of power.

Answer 5

"Don't say it's because men oppressed them, because that's circular logic."

No, Darling, it's not. You're implying that anyone who is oppressed deserves to be oppressed.

Answer 6

its a lie basically, anyone with a mind of their own can dismantle it.

HEY TRACEY BABE, when are you gonna ask us another QUESTION?

Answer 7

This simple: Women are no better then men, Men are no better then women. Women and Men are important just in differnt ways.

Answer 8

I did not know there were different kinds of logic.

Logic is logic.

Your argument falls apart in definitions.  Equal does not necessarily mean exactly the same.

(3 + 2) = 5

(1 + 4) = 5

Two equations.  Four equal components   Only two of the components are the same.

The evidence that men and women should be equal is the necessity of the existence and participation of both in order to perpetuate the species.

Shall we examine the term complementary now?

Answer 9

Feminist logic, well it's right over there next to the military intelligence and the political ethics, of course.

Answer 10

Try boating again maby this time you will get cought in the prop! Or next time you will eat the LCD slime when you go into your basement to shoot things.

Answer 11

Femminist logic.

"There would be lesser wars if women ruled the world."

"Aborting a child that is out of rape is correct so every abortion is correct."

Plato will go into a coma if he tries to figure out logic in these assertions.