Where can I get a 16mm video camera?

Question

I am quite low-budget but am looking for a 16mm video camera for independent films. What are some cheap models and where can I get them?

Answer 1

to be frank a decent hdv 1080 with 24p will do a better job than 16mm film. the resolution is comparable and you can get plus ins for the film grain and grading effects that you like.

i use a sony hvr-v1p and it looks as good as super 16mm which is of course better than standard 16mm.

also, you gain the practicalities on NLE suites.

hope it helps!

Answer 2

the cost of film, film processesing and editing with sound makes 16mm decidedly not low budget.  HDV using miniDV tape is the best option for the penny pincher.

but to answer your question, Bolex 16mm cameras are still made in Switzerland. check at any high end camera store.

Answer 3

That is an excellent question, and as the two previous responders correctly stated, shooting in digital video is an excellent approach, and is definately cheaper. Especially with the emerging technology behind 1920 x 1080 24p, you can get closer and closer to the filmish look. Some great digital cameras to look at are:

1) Red Scarlet   (coming in 2009)

2) Sony PMW-EX1

3) JVC GY-HD200U

4) Pansonic HVX200

5) Canon XH-A1

Standard def:

1) Panasonic AG-DVX100B

2) Canon XL2

Professional Digital Cinema Cameras (I know this is probably not an option for you, but I've listed them just for fun :)

1) Red One   (Red Digital Cinema)

2) Genesis    (Panavision)

3) Arri D20    (Arri)

    The Red One is my dream camera :) Its a digital camera that shoots in 4K (that's twice the resolution of HD) and its only $17,500 for the body (which is cheap compared to its competitors). Its a relatively new camera (and a relatively new company) that might just revolutionize the industry. Because of Red, big movie productions might finally accept digital cameras. I know it has been used on several big productions already, like the movie Jumper.  http://www.red.com/

   Although I love the convenience of digital video, I agree with you: digital still cannot match film. Sure you can almost simulate the smooth look of 24frames per second, and add a little film grain. You can even simulate film's tendencies such as stobing. However, you still don't have that certain feeling of film on digital. It still doesn't look quite right. Also, there is no cheap digital camcorder that accurately simulates the narrow depth of field like that on film. The Sony PMW-EX1 and some ENG camcorders with 2/3" image sensors come close, but not close enough.

Getting to the point, it's hard to find a 16mm camera availabe for purchase, let alone an inexpensive one. I do know of one place that sells older models of used film cameras. Here is the link:  http://visualproducts.com/store02.asp?ID...

There are some nice Arri cameras there, for an approachable price.  However, if you're open for compromise, I still believe a better, more economical option would be to go digital. The cameras I have provided above would be excellent for an independant film. They also take much less knowledge to operate them. I do know for a fact that the JVC GY-HD110U (similar to the HD200) was used on several indie films.

     However, with a film camera, you'll need to know how to process your film into a NLE system, or how to cut footage on an editing table. That can be expensive. It's rewarding nonetheless; I find film editing to be more fun!

To whatever your decision may be, Best of luck!!!