Where is it exactly that it states that Satan is a fallen angel of God?

Question

Luke 10:17-19 merely says that Jesus saw Satan from the sky like lightning.

Isaiah 14 merely talks about the Babylonian King.

The great dragon of revelation, talking about some future thing...

Revelation 12:9

And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

If you don't capitalize Satan there it is talking about a dragon (nation) who is considered a devil and adversary - i.e. evil and decadent Rome...

Come to think of it, isn't Revelations simply a symbolic book talking about the adversity of Rome? You couldn't denounce Rome directly but in symbols...

Answer 1

Christians use a differnent book OT and different translation than the Jewish Tanach that it's based on.  Hence where they get the idea.

Judaism is completely against the idea of a separate entity with powers beyond God...it doesn't exist in Judaism.  Also, the Hebrew in the original text, doesn't have anything about fallen.  He's just a judging angel acting at God's behest.

Answer 2

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Answer 3

In Judaism Satan is just an angel working for God. Judaism came before Christianity.

Answer 4

You must start with the beginning of that chapter -- For HaShem will show mercy to Jacob.  He will choose Israel again and grant them rest upon their land.  The proselyte will join them and be attached to the House of Jacob.  The nations will take them and bring them to their place, and the House of ISRAEL will posses them as slaves and maidservants upon the land of HaShem; they will be captors over their captors and they will rule over their oppressors.

The *glowing morning star* is Israel herself!  The verse refers to the great kindness that God will cause Cyrus the Persian, the conqueror of Babylonia, to show the Jews.  The prophet then goes on to speak of the Messianic era (Rashi; Radak).

King Cyrus is one of many *messiahs* in the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible).

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Answer 5

You are not too well versed in "spiritually speaking"... it is all a matter of basic Bible interpretation....

According to the Bible, there is free will in Heaven!!! No sooner God created Heaven with all the angels 1/3 of them rebelled against God on the SPOT and became demons!!! IMHO this is a major glitch in God’s Creation that Christians refuse to talk about! During the 6 day creation week God was very busy creating the rest of the Universe and h**l to do anything about this rebellion right away, but he scheduled to have all the rebellious angels evicted from Heaven and cast down to Earth along with Satan during the “Tribulation Period” after the Rapture™! So according to the Bible record before Eve ever touched the forbidden fruit, 1/3 of the "innumerable host of Heaven" actually rebelled against God on free will!!! It is a shame that not even one single “Guardian Angel” was available to watch and protect Eve from committing an UNKNOWN EVIL like eating from the fruit of the KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL that has the potential of sending the bulk of humanity that God loves so much to h**l “prepared for Satan and his angels”. She learned that it was evil only afterwards when her “eyes were opened!” Only an all Wise God would set her up like that so the bulk of humanity would end up in h**l! Later on more angels banded together to quit Heaven in the days of Noah when they noticed that the girls from around here were "BEAUTIFUL" so they had s*x and family with them (Gen 6:1-2) – This is a clue in the Bible that male angels have well developed sexual organs and that s*x in Heaven must be very lousy or the female angels very ugly and prudish that they had to look elsewhere for a better deal not even 1,000 years after their creation... and so on... Remember that "without gullibility… (Oops, sorry) faith it is impossible to please God!" and most Christians hardly read the Bible and stop to think what they are reading! The classical “When we get to Heaven God will tell us all that we need to know” is what makes Christianity so thriving!

Answer 6

God created angels and when one turned bad (Satan) he threw him and all his followers out of heaven.