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Which Royal Caribbean ship would you recommend for 4 couples in their 30's with no children?

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Which Royal Caribbean ship would you recommend for 4 couples in their 30's with no children?

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  1. i have only sailed on enchantment of the seas but plan on a cruise on mariner of the seas the best way to avoid kids is to sail when the little tykes are in school late fall is great and have a wonderful time


  2. Sounds like you need to know all about cruising.  Royal CAribbean is my favorite cruise line and their ships are great.

    Most cruises are done by cruise lines like Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Norwegian, Princess, Celebrity, Holland America, and Disney. Consider also Cunard Cruise Line and the Queen Mary II.  The ship is fantastic and the prices are comparable with RC, NCL and Princess. Most of the ships for these lines are now 1500 to 2500 passenger ships.  The ships are big but things are so well managed that you really don't feel crowded on them.  Prices on these ship can be as low as $800  for a 7 day inside cabin and about $1200 for a balcony cabin.  Most of these lines go to the same places, they are just in port on different days.  When you dock there may be one or two other ships there for the day and some days there may not be any where you go.

    The first rule in getting less expensive cruises is book early.  The second rule is go with the same cruise line multiple times because they do offer repeat customer discounts of $50 to $100 per person in a cabin.  The third rule is shop around for specials.  Some lines will offer specials on a date that does not usually sell out, like Christmas or Thanksgiving week.  So don't lock yourself in to one particular week of the year; be flexible.  

    If you have not cruised before and don't know the ropes it may be beneficial for you to use an agent; the agent does not charge a fee but is paid by the cruise line.  But, also, do some home work on cruise line, itineraries, and ships.  Use the cruise line web sites to look at what's being offered.  Try to have in mind some of  what you want to do when you talk to an agent.  If you feel comfortable doing it, you can do your own booking online, the price is the same and you can do everything you need right on the web sites.  The sites usually have cruises listed for this year and next. I booked my last two cruises completely online, including making payments and booking port tours. The format and service on all of these is about the same.

    I have found that the food on Celebrity, Princess and RC is a cut above what I have been told is served on Disney and Carnival. Disney has good ships but is primarily  for kids, and families with kids.  It does have adults only areas on ship, but the kids are still there on ship.  They will have lots of kids’ activities on the ships, but they will still be all over the hallways, elevators and dining facilities.  There will be  lots of kids running around and looking for Micky, Donald, Minnie, Goofie, etc all over the ship.  

    Carnival is the fun ship, but their accommodations are not the best.  Carnival is the party cruise line that most young folks and first time cruisers take  (ages 20 to 35) who want to party, party, party.  If that’s what you are looking for then Carnival is the one for you.

    Princess, Royal Caribbean, Holland America,  Celebrity, and Norwegian tend to have people who have cruised many times and are in the 40 and over age group; a more reserved crowd.  All of these cruise lines  may also have some kids but not many. However, on these lines there are activities just for kids of different ages and staff persons assigned to supervise them most of the day.  The last cruise we took on Celebrity had only about 7 or 8 kids all total.  

    Another important factor to consider is, cruises going to the Caribbean tend to have more young folks than those going to Alaska, Panama, the Mediterranean, the Baltic, or South America.  People who go to the Caribbean are looking for fun things like beaches, jet skiing, snorkeling and scuba diving, parasailing, and a lot of other activities related to water and beaches.  On the other hand, people who go to Alaska, Panama, the Mediterranean, etc., are looking for cultural and historic activities.  These cruisers tend to be the older people (40+).  That does not mean these cruises are dull,  it just means that the passengers are more mature and reserved.  You will find the 40+ crowd in the bars and disco and having as good a time as the youngsters, but you may not hear them across the room or deck.

       SHIP’S  CABIN CATEGORIES

    Sometimes people get confused by the categories on ship that agents or the web sites refer to.  Categories are simply a listing of the different types of cabins on the ship by size, location and amenities.  Categories are the price structure. What you need to know and understand is that the category designations DO NOT mean the same thing on all cruise lines. For example, a Cat "C" on a Carnival ship is NOT the same as a Cat "C" on a Norwegian or Royal Caribbean ship. AND, a category "C" is not necessarily the same across all of the ships in a cruise line.  However, there is one exception to this. Some times cruise lines build TWO OR MORE IDENTICAL ships.  So all of the cabins on both ships are the same and thus the categories for these two are the same.  For example, a Cat "D"on the RC's Jewel of the Seas is identical with a Cat “D” on their Brilliance of the Seas because the ships are identical. Same with the NCL's Dream and its Wind ships.  

    If/when you go to a cruise line web site you will see the various cabins listed by type, i.e., SUITE, VERANDA/BALCONY, OUTSIDE, and INSIDE. the category, and generally the square footage of each cabin type. The category will generally be listed next to the cabin type.  The most expensive cabins (generally "Cat A and B") are the  penthouses and owners' suites, which are like apartments and what you saw on the old TV program "The Love Boat".  Next are the jr and full suites (maybe "Cat C"). The next are the VERANDA or BALCONY cabins (you have your own private patio). The next lowest priced  are OUTSIDE cabins (they have either a window or porthole). The cheapest cabins offered are always the inside cabins; those without a window or porthole. The inside, outside and balcony cabins are generally the same size on each ship, but may vary by ship and cruise line.  

    I always recommend the balcony or Veranda cabins because  most ships these days tend to have many of them at a reasonable price (i.e., $1200 to $1500 for a 7-day.) and, frankly, you will enjoy your cruise more with a veranda/balcony cabin.

                             YOUR CABIN

    First of all the terms "cabin" and "stateroom" mean the same thing; the cruise industry prefers stateroom.  The standard cabin that most people get (inside/outside/balcony) are generally between 175 and 200 Square feet, about the size of a 9 by 12 ft home bedroom (balconies are about 45 to 55 sq ft). Suites and penthouses can be between 350 and 1300 square feet. Each cabin has a two beds which can be made into a queen, a bathroom with a shower stall, a closet and some drawer space, a TV and telephone, a safe for valuables, and a life jacket for each passenger.  Some cabins that are built to accommodate 3 or 4 people will have a pull down bed and/or a sofa bed.   Its been my experience that Princess and Royal Caribbean have the best ship and cabin decor (also some of the best food.)

    WHAT’S A CRUISE LIKE

    Cruises are one of THE best vacations you can take. Once you are on ship the staff caters to you, its whatever you want. There is something to do all day every day. When you arrive at the port to check in you (each passenger) will receive a key card which will serve as your room key, charge card for anything you buy on ship (i.e.,drinks, souvenir) and its also your pass to get on and off ship in each port. When you first board the ship the security personnel will have you insert your key card into a scanner and then will take a photo of you that is included in the magnetic strip on the card.  Each time you get off ship you will need this key card and many times also a photo ID (passport or driver's license). This card allows them to keep an accurate track of all passengers entering and/or leaving the ship.  Infants and small children may be required to wear an ID bracelet (like in the hospital) in lieu of carry a card.

    Each day of your cruise you will receive in your cabin a "newsletter" listing the time, place and particulars of everything happening for you on ship. There are generally activities like demonstrations of ice carvings, napkin folding and towel folding, and cooking demonstrations.  Some ships may offer a galley (kitchen) tour or a tour of the bridge. There may be organized games and other activities around the pools. In the evenings there are generally shows, one show for those with an early dinner seating and another (same show) for those who eat late. There is always food available. Usually there is a place in ship where you can go get something. Or, you can always just pick up the phone in your cabin and order from the room service menu (food is free). If you want, you can order breakfast room service.

    All ships have a casino with slots and table games. Ships have movie theaters, generally small but nice, and you can also see movies in your room. They have ATM’s and a purser’s desk where you can cash a check or exchange currency if you need to.  There is a tour and activities desk so you can schedule land tours and activities.

    Ships have free morning exercise programs, stretching and walking, etc, and on some you can pay for other things like Spinning. All cruise ships have gyms so you can go workout, usually any time from 6:00 AM to late at night. There is usually a walking/running track on one of the decks also. Some ships leave the gym open all night. They call the gyms Spa because they do promote getting pampered with things like wraps and massages with aroma therapy. They will also generally have a beauty salon to do hair and nails.

    There are always pools. Some ships have more than one and the newer ships generally have an indoor pool as well as outdoor ones and all of these have hot tubs. There is generally a basketball court on the top deck, a place for scuffle board, and a mini-golf course. The newer Royal Caribbean ships have a rock climbing wall and the newest one has a pool for water surfing.

    There are places on ships to play cards and board games, and the cards and games are provided. If you want to just sit and read, there’s a library where you can bring your books or select one from the shelf.  Ships have internet cafes and some offer WIFI if you bring your prefer to use your computer in your cabin (some ships offer notebooks for rent).  There are cocktail lounges that feature a variety of music.  Some have a piano bar with jazz. There is usually a disco that starts after 10:00 PM each night and last until everyone leave.  On certain days ships will have special activities like a chocolate lovers buffet, or a midnight deck party .      

    I suggest that you go to the web site for the cruise lines and look at the cabin prices, port stops, the features for the ships and select a cruise that will do what you want to do.  Then you may want to talk to an agent and see if they can find what you want. Finally, decide whether you want to book your self or have an agent do it for you.

                       WILL YOU GET SEA SICK ??

    Some people worry about getting sea sick, but the ships being used these days have automated stabilizers which minimize the rocking.  The larger ships cut through the water so easy that you don’t even feel like you are moving.  When there is bad weather the cruise lines will steer around and away from it, sometimes changing the order of port stops.  Also, the ships generally move overnight and dock in the mornings so you don’t feel much movement. Consequently, your chances of getting sea sick are minimal. There is generally less motion than on an airplane.  If you do get sick, all ships have a doctor and they will dispense sea sick medicines.  If you are prone to motion sickness, just get pills or a patch from your own doctor before you go, or go to a boating store and get a sea sickness bracelet.

    OTHER CRUISE TIPS

    The shorter cruises are 4 or 5 days, and the normal ones are either 7 to 14 days or more.  If you are not sure whether you will like cruising, go on a short one first.  

    To save some money, consider driving to the port; Miami, Ft Lauderdale, N.O., Houston, LA,  NJ.  Most ports have plentiful and safe parking (I have driven many times to Miami and Ft Lauderdale) at both places that costs about $12 a day.  Driving can save money over the cruise line "add-in" for airfare.  We generally drive most of the way on one day from NC and stop about an hour or two from the port for the night.  Then we continue the short trip the next day to the port.  Most ships start boarding between noon and 1:00 PM.  If you are a cruise club member you generally get to go on first, or early.  

    Join the cruise club so that the cruise line will send you their specials and so that you can get discounts on future cruises with them.  The discount will typically be $50 to $100 per person.   If you will be celebrating a honeymoon, anniversary, or birthday during the cruise, be sure to tell them, they will do special stuff for that.  

    Most 7-day cruises have two formal nights when you can wear your best stuff and get pictures taken, and maybe meet the ship’s Captain.  Cruise lines charge a lot for the photos they take so take your own photos around the ship when you get the chance, especially on the formal nights.  Ask other passengers to take photos for you, they generally are very willing.

    Review the listing of tours offered on your cruise and decide whether you want to pay for a tour or go on your own.  On most Caribbean islands you can get a taxi or tour in port for much less than the cruise ship tours.   HOWEVER, the one big advantage of going on ship sponsored tours is THE SHIP WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU if your ship sponsored tour is late getting back to the ship.  If you will be in a port for 12 to 16 hours you are probably safe to go on your own for most anything.  But if you are only there for six to eight hours you may want to stay close to the ship or go on the ship tours.

    FREESTYLE CRUISING

    Freestyle Cruising  means that you do not have to specify a dining option when you book your cruise and thus don't have a table and waiter assigned to you. "FREESTYLE" means you can go to dinner in the main dining room, or any other alternative restaurant, any time of the evening after 6:00 PM..  But you will have to reserve a time in the alternate restaurants.  It also means that you don't have to "dress up" for dinner, but just go "sports casual".  But it also means that you may be standing in line awaiting a table on some days (like we had to do a couple times); not what you want on a cruise.  Since you go when you want, you rarely get the same waiter and so never really get to know your waiter and he/she never learns what you prefer as is done on “traditional” cruise lines.

    I have been on many Norwegian ships and at one time NCL was my favorite cruise line.  However, after NCL was bought by Star Cruises and they instituted the "Freestyle Cruising", I do not care for their cruises and do not recommend them, especially for people who have been on  a number of cruises and prefer traditional cruising. Since Star Cruises took over NCL the line it has an Asian flavor; Star is an Oriental company. Some of the performers and musicians were Asian and they have Karioke every evening. Not my cup of tea.

    The option to traditional dining being pushed on NCL is their optional dining restaurants. However, these dining options can cost $10 to $20 a person for dinner each night.  This is not what you want after paying for a cruise which is supposed to be all inclusive. The optional restaurants are very nice, including French, Chinese/Sushi, Tex-Mex, Italian, and steak house restaurants. But who wants to go pay to eat on a cruise ship where all the meals are supposed to be included. We always skipped the optional restaurants and just got to the main dining early. That worked fine, except on "at sea" days when everyone wanted to go eat early.  We later found that we could reserve a time in the main dining room, but we still got a different table and waiter for dinner each night

    HIDDEN COSTS

    The hidden costs on a cruise are your tab after the cruise for drinks (alcoholic and sodas), tours, and gratuities.  Many ships now add the recommended gratuity to your onboard tab. The gratuity is about $10 to $12 per day per person. You can give more if you want. Tours can add hundreds to your final bill, depending upon how many stop the ship makes and what you want to do. Study the tours carefully; some places you may want to just go on your own.  

    So book any RC ship and you will have a good time.

  3. http://booking.joystar.com/travel/cruise... click on each ship and read about it

  4. I saw a documentary done on Royal Caribbean lines. The kinds of things that apparently go on are horrendous...let's just say I'll never waste my money to take a cruise now.

  5. I've been on Voyager, Mariner & Freedom. They are all awesome ships! The Promade (available on all 3) is awesome for shopping and there are lots of great lounges and bars to hang out in. The decor is really amazing. You won't believe you're on a ship. You can get virtual tours on http://www.royalcaribbean.com

  6. NAVIGATOR of the SEAS!!!  Awesome ship!!!  Been on it twice and am going again soon!!!

  7. if you are looking to avoid children altogether.. book  a 9 day or longer cruise, and avoid sailing during summer and major school breaks(march and Christmas)

    Families tend to book 5-7 day cruises as they are more economical plus they can fit them into school breaks easier.  

    Look for itineraries that have lots of sea days or don't spend too much time at ports with child friendly activities like beaches.  

    As for a specifc RCI ship, that will depend on where you want to sail out of and the schedule you have to work with.

  8. In the end any cruse ship is great. In the end what should really determine that is how long do you want to be gone for and where the ship is going. After that there are no bad ships. living in Florida I know friends who have been on many different ships and from different lines. some go Royal Caribbean, some Carnival. and if you're are looking for a time that is lower priced it is Sept and Dec (not Christmas week)

    :)

  9. Enchantment of the seas ,hands down there were about 300  children on the ship and I don't recall seeing them very often.There are so many programs and areas which children are not permitted .It is a large  beautiful ship and the entire crew was fantastic.If thats not the ship you like Royal Carribean has others,but definetly stay with them.

  10. I agree - Navigator of the Seas. In general, Royal Caribbean is already better than Carnival for avoiding families with kids.

    Although the Freedom of the Seas looks amazing as well, but Navigator is the only one I have been on.

  11. Carnival..........od Dysney

  12. Any of the Voyager Class ships. There is lots to do for adults including clubs, pubs, casino etc. There is enough to do for kids that you don't see too much of them. If they annoy you in the pool area, there is a separate pool area for adults only (It seems to have the really old adults though).

  13. Just got back from the Explorer of the Seas and would definitely recommend it.  Many 30-ish couples aboard – Great dancing in the evening, good shows, and great food.  I would think any of the Royal Caribbean Voyager class ships would be the same.  I went out of Port Liberty (Bayonne NJ) to St Maarten, San Juan and a Royal Caribbean private beach (Missed St Thomas due to hurricane).  We were with two other couples and had a great time.

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