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Which driver broke the law and caused this accident? (see image & read carefully)

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The last time I posted this there was enormous confusion over the details so I am reposting it make the incident more clear. If you cannot take the time to read the facts below, please do not respond.

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Above is the image.

1) The rectangles are much larger than the actual size of the cars in relation of the street. This is so you can see them. The picture shows roughly 2 square city blocks of area.

2) The car represented by the red rectangle had flashing red lights. This refers to the directional device of the street, not an emergency vehicle.

3) The car represented by the white rectangle had flashing yellow lights. This refers to the directional device of the street, not an emergency vehicle.

4) The distance between the red car (stopped at the light) and the yellow car when it first appears is over 500 feet. THIS MEANS THAT WHEN THE RED CAR STOPPED AT THE INTERSECTION AND LOOKED FOR ONCOMING TRAFFIC, THE CLOSEST CAR WAS ROUGHLY A CITY BLOCK AWAY.

5) The image now includes more data than an earlier posting (the time when the red car approached the intersection) to make the event clearer to the viewer. However, it reflects the same data.

6) It should be clear that the white car accelerates at the intersection and does not stop. Assuming that this is not the case when the image shows this defeats the purpose of the question.

7) The image should clearly show that when the red car is stopped at the intersection, the white car suddenly appears over 500 feet away right when the red car is proceeding into the intersection.

8) It should be clear that the white car does not approach the intersection until the red car is already in the middle of it.

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  1. Since the red car had come to a complete stop before proceeding, I would think that the red car had right of way.  However, in this case if the red car could see the white car coming he should have resisted continuing until the white car passed.  

    The white car had right of way reguardless of how fast he was going or how he approached the intersection.  


  2. It appears that the white car was going to fast to yield to the red car. Yellow means to yield/slow down/possible stop, the red means stop until safe to go. The red vehicle being as the white vehicle was a city block away should have had time to get acrossed the intersection and the white car should have yielded/slowed down. But instead, it appears that it speeds up in 'spite' because they were probably pissed off that the other car went in front of them. Some people do this and that's what causes accidents.

    This video I believe shows the fault of the white vehicle because it's obvious they were speeding/sped up and the red vehicle was already crossing before they even got halfway down the block. You can tell that the white car was speeding because of the distance it pushed the red vehicle when it hit. The white vehicle did not pay attention at all and neglected to yield.

    My opinion from reading the question, and watching the video.

    I hope they end up putting up stop lights at that intersection or they will see a lot more accidents happen there.

  3. I answered your first post - but you seem to want the answer which makes you not at fault - so I will break it down.

    A vehicle travels 1.47 feet per second for every 1 mile p/hr traveled.  Follow me - so what you are accounting for is roughly - 9 seconds - assuming the vehicle taveling with the right of way - the key is right of way - follow me - would be at 40 mph. - bring it to 50 - it takes about 7 seconds to travel the distance.  But here is your flaw.

    You do not have the foot distance accurate - you did not measure it.

    You have no Idea where this vehicle started from - you did not see it - remember - it hit you - so you couldn"t of seen it and where it was.

    My guess is that since you do not know the start of the vehicles distance - we can not guess the velocity - and you mention nothing about skid marks and crush damage - which is needed to reconstruct a crash.

    SO HERE IT IS _ THE RIGHT OF WAY IS TO NON REGULATED TRAFFIC_ YOU HAD A STOP _ THE OTHER CAR DID NOT - IT IS A FAIL TO YIELD!

  4. What is the speed limit? Was there an accident reconstruction done to determine the speed of the white vehicle? Any eyewitnesses who could accurately determine the speed of the white car?

    Unless it can be proven that the while car was speeding, and that the cause of the collision was the excessive speed of the while car, then the red car is at fault. The while car had the right of way to enter the intersection, as the red flashing light for the red car was the same as a stop sign, requiring that vehicle to stop and wait for all cross traffic before entering the intersection.

  5. Definitely the WHITE car...look at the rate of speed the white car is  travelling...the other car couldn't have seen the white car before entering the intersection...DEFINITELY the White.

  6. your image does not show everything you just listed clearly.  Are you trying to get out of a ticket or something?  I think it honestly just depends on who ran the red light or stop sign.  Whoever did that is the one at fault regardless of how far away the car was at one point.

    EDIT:  Who are you calling a troll?  How in the world is anyone supposed to be able to distinguish the speed and stopping/going on little rectangles?  And who would give me a thumbs down for saying the person that ran the stoplight or stopsign is at fault?  Isn't that how we drive safely?  By obeying traffic signals and signs.  Maybe your question isn't clear since you yourself said "there was enormous confusion over the details so I am reposting" and then proceeded to list out a million little details that you expect to be crystal clear to us.

  7. The red car was at fault simply because you stated the red car had the flashing red light and the white truck had the flashing yellow. Obviously one block was not enough distance for this accident to not happen so the person with the flashing red should have waited.

  8. Who are you calling troll? Thats pretty immature to say about people when your posting thstupid question or whatver the h**l u wanna call it..


  9. the 1rst

  10. I would say the white car. Not only was it speeding, but it did not look to see if the intersection was clear before proceeding,

  11. If the red car had flashing red lights and the white car only had flashing yellow lights, thus the white car had the right of way, the red car should have stopped until the road was clear.

    If the white care is excessively speeding, they may be partially at fault because of that fact.

  12. the white car is going way too fast

  13. the driver of the red car is at fault.  They are required to stop, then proceed when clear.  It doesn't really matter what speed the white car was at, it had the right of way.

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