Which is more embarassing yesterday at Indy or the 2005 US GP at Indy?

Question

Well after the embarrassment they called a race at the Brickyard yesterday and a fan of all racing, Which was worse the 2005 US GP or the 2008 Brickyard 400? Would love to hear some opinions on this. If you recall at Indy in 2005 6 cars raced of the 20 entered thanks to the tire manufacture Michelin deeming their tires not safe to race on. Yesterday Goodyear didn't have a tire that would last 30 laps. That led to 6 competition yellow flag periods.

Answer 1

How can I ever forget the '05 USGP! I was there that day and it was by far the most embarrassing moment in F1!

Answer 2

Yesterday, easily, was more of an embarrassment.  F1 in my opinion handled their situation to perfection.  They had the race.  Bridgestone was prepared and Michelin was not.  Those teams choose not to participate. They didn't ask any teams to not participate.  F1 handled their situation to what was best for 'sport'.  Nascar handled their situation to what was best for 'entertainment' and PR.  I'll take sport over entertaining any day, because sport IS entertaining.  The 2005 US Grand Prix actually made me a greater fan of how F1 is run.  Any other racing league would have done something lame like add a chicane or THROW A CAUTION EVERY 25 MILES!

Answer 3

On the one hand everyone knows NASCAR is not is not at the cutting edge of technology so a technical flop is maybe not such a big deal for them. On the other hand F1 stuck to their rulebook in 2005 at Indy instead of just making it up as they go along like NASCAR sometimes seems to do. Both situations suck, especially for fans who made a long trip to get there. For the fans at home, they can change the channel.

Answer 4

the brickyard it was like 10 10 lap shoot outs

Answer 5

i dont watch NASCAR.....but watch F-1 regularliy...and i didnt find any one of them emabarrsing......in the case of F-1 our indian f-1 driver Narain Karthekeyan was getting a few points(finally he finished 4th thts 6pts) on his debut season in f-1 and i was really happy for him.....LOL!!!

Answer 6

F1 was much worse.  

They didn't even attempt to run or correct the problem.  They actually refused to let Michelin bring a better tire once they found out how dangerous it was.  We ended up with a 6 cars running and 14 cars wouldn't race.

At least NASCAR ran a race with the entire field and kept it safe.  They had competition cautions so tires could be changed before randomly blowing out with no warning.  Sure it would have been nice to see green flag runs but with the tire situation there was going to a caution every 10-15 laps for a wreck if they hadn't done the competition cautions.  Had someone gotten seriously hurt over a known safety problem things would have been much much worse.

nathan - How would street tires help?  If you can wear out a racing tire in 10 laps a street tire wouldn't even make it 1/2 a mile before it blew out.  Racing tires see much higher speeds, loads, and temperatures than any street tire will see.  You would run every lap under caution and someone would get hurt.  The Bugatti Veyron will wear out tires in less than 15 miles at over 200 mph the only reason its safe is because it will run out of gas even faster.

Answer 7

thanks to max mosely the F1 grand prix in 05 was much more embarrassing. It's formula one watched on the world scale and it was the main race us american fans looked forward to and SIX CARS RACED. the brickyard 400 isn't a big race just because it's at indy, nascars didn't make indy popular open wheel cars did, formula one cars did. nascar is watched mainly in the US and the fans can watch plenty of ovals. the grand prix was the most embarrassing.

Answer 8

F1 was worse, at least at the 400 they decided that the show must go on...albeit with many pit stops...

the F1 teams could have done that also, ore something else, deciding not to run destroyed the seed that they were trying to plant in the US

Answer 9

An equal tie.  Nobody liked the fact that 14 teams parked their cars for safety concerns.  But how could a fan enjoy Sunday's race, when it was just 10 lap sprint races.  Both tire manufacturers missed, HORRIBLY!  I just can't see how it happened in either series with testing.  

It was 10 laps with 9 yellows.

Answer 10

The Grand Prix race was the bigger embarassment.

Yesterday took me back to the old Saturday night heat races.

10 laps let's start over, 10 laps let's start over.

I think NASCAR should make them use street tires. Their supposed to be the best drivers in the world, let them show us.

emiller- talk to someone about tires. any street tire will last 10 times what a racing tire would. The rubber compounds are totally different. They would have no grip. The drivers would be "dirt trackin" around every corner. Many would explode (except for HR rated) because most are not designed to spin at 180 MPH, but they wouldn't wear out.