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Which is more troubling.... Palin's Church's position on Israel, or ?

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the fact that enough Americans agree with it so it won't hurt her politically? Her Church says that Israel is the victim of terrorism because the Jews reject Christ and are receiving God's judgement.

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  1. Never talk politics and religion...lol ((((Mona))))


  2. She is obviously and transparently a bigot in drag.

  3. I don't see how she could say they are receiving God's judgment and not think of America.  We are going to go through some hard times as well.

  4. You don't read much in the Gospels do you?  Try all four of them and pay attention to what Jesus says;  Matthew 23 and Very Close to Mathew 23:37-39.  However take warning the Nation of Israel is still God's choosen Nation and even those He tells them what is wrong we are still to protect them from their enemy.  Just like, you, I, or anyone else would protect our children.  I can do what I want to, it is my children, but you harm them and the, "Wrath of Momma or Daddy will fall on you"

  5. Geez... and they complained about Obama.  I think she just lost the Jewish vote - at least, she lost MINE.  Somehow, the women doesn't strike me as the sharpest tool in the shed.

  6. American Politics confounds me.

    If a politician said something like that over hear (The UK) they would be kicked out of Parliament in a flash.

  7. I don't agree with what her church says nor do I agree with what Obama's church said about 9-11 being God's punishment.  I assume you agree with Obama's church but that is as foolish as what Palin's church thinks.

  8. Palin is white and a 'Good' Christian.  So no one will pay attention.

    Obama is a 'liberal' Christian, like me.  And just like me, people will continue to tell him that he's not allowed to accept Christ because of his social stances.

    Sad, but true.

  9. I hope that Europe saves us from our idiots like we did for them a few decades ago..  Enough is enough.

  10. funny thing about the christian relationship with Israel.

    It is revered since it is in the bible.

    At the same time there is a huge effort to convert the Jews.

    The politics of Israel has a lot to do with the christian view of end times that involves Israel.

    You could say that America is a friend but the same time a religious adversary.,

  11. As I keep saying, anyone who can let their religion interfere with their politics should NOT be put into any form of office. If only to keep this country safe.

  12. I don't think that many Americans will agree with it.  Of course, the Religious Right crowd will be singing her praises for this statement long after the election, but I suspect it will turn into a nightmare on other fronts.  A lot of ministers will likely attack her statement, as will other people in the general public.  She may get the Religious Right back in the Republican pocket, but she'll alienate even more with a statement like that.  

    She looks like she's calling for another crusade.

  13. At least she is smart enough to realize that we have a war which is virtually Islam versus Christianity.  In the Muslim countries thinking there is no difference between a population that is Islamic and a religion that is Islamic.  So their perception of the West is a population that is Christian and just like the population of a Muslim nation is Muslim.  So they view the activities of the USA as essentially the activities as it relates to the Christian world view.

  14. No, I think that the most troubling thing is that she is a fundy

  15. politics + religion = weapon of mass destruction

  16. DId she really???

    Well they just lost the Jewish vote!!

  17. She couldn't go anywhere without people who believe enough in her to support her cause.  Politicians aren't really the problem, they're just a symptom.  Our priorities are so screwed up and no one's willing to stand up and say, "This **** has to stop".

  18. FAR worse is the fact that so many Americans agree with it!

    She is a slice of that rotten side of the apple. Does anyone out there really believe she was picked in case she had to be president? She was picked because of her character (not because she HAS character)- she was picked the same way my kids pick a pokemon!!

    The whole thing is like pro wrestling, I'm waiting for Vince McMahon to come walking out with a microphone, then Palin grabs it from him and starts ranting about the difference between hockey moms and pit- bulls (answer: lipstick.)

  19. That view is quite widespead among fundamentalists.  But I expect her to de-emphasize that position now, because, whether true or not, it would be offensive to the Jews.

  20. Well that might be logically true.  Christ was the victim of terrorism because he rejected pure judaism!  It is how we come to our most severe intersections, our most severe crosses that determines whether we get crucified or not.  Things can be done gracefully with communication or grinding and gnashing of teeth, fangs showing and insults flying.   I recommend the earlier not the latter!

    Life does not always seem FAIR!

    Hi!  I am a Forgive Affirmed Spirit and this is what I profess and try to act like.

    Forgive Affirmed Spirit is the belief in a way of life that is a method of grief resolution and functional communication processing involving active listenning, sympathy, empathy and affirmation of shock, denial, anger, guilt, depression, loneliness and hope...a kind of ego-equilibrium seeking methodology.

    A Greater Works of communication and action, a way to learn to love your enemies "Advocating mortal life, Do unto others as you would have them do unto you AS IF YOU WERE THEM!"  



    And nobody is perfect!  NOBODY!  We are all judgeable, hopefully in a graceful discerning way!   We are all doing our best every moment!

    Humans judge everything  as we are a part of it.  Without difference, we have nothing to live for, nothing to witness.  Sin is difference, the relative seriousness with regards to law and survival of other beings, is punishable by the courts. The best way to judge is with as much graceful discernment as one can muster in a given moment!

    Life is the question(uncertainty) asked by the exhaling infinitely compacted imagination invention, or no thing, which is completely certain of everything, completely omniscient or all knowing.

    When I die, I believe I will be in a new state, aware of all that is and yet divided into the nature of dust that I am in, whereupon my dust shall fall.  My being will remain an infinite part of an infinite being and infinite knowledge without my material human being status of now. So there will be a change.



    But my soul, my passions and discompassions, will move on to infinite places of comfort and challenge.  Able to return to this state of uncertainty and free choice illusion for another ride when it is called effectively to do so.

    So that the children of God, the creations of God, .. are actually part in parcel of that God or Creation Energy!

    This  life is a roller coaster ride. Enjoy your passion within it and whatever gathering of two or more in Forgive Affirmed Spirit to make it better can garner.

    Healing be unto you and yours and me and mine in

    Forgive Affirmed Spirit


  21. Is that what she says????

    Good grief. How utterly vile. How patronising.

    Jews don't 'reject' Jesus any more than Christians 'reject' Mohammed. We had a complete and fulfilling faith for thousands of years *before* Jesus was even born. And we would be disobeying G-d if we ever worshipped a man - G-d told us never to do that!

    Perhaps Palin should worry more about her own family and less about what we Jews do and believe. We don't need her 'help'.

    Israel gets attacked because the Arab world does not WANT a democracy in that region. That's why and that's the only reason why.

  22. double standard

    no god no trouble

    god and politics do not mix

    ask Jesus

    he said give caesar his due


  23. Obama is a 'liberal' Christian, like me. And just like me, people will continue to tell him that he's not allowed to accept Christ because of his social stances.

    Sad, but true.

    I wonder if he believes in aliens

    http://www.theconservativevoice.com/arti...

    http://www.alienresistance.org/

    Deceiving The Elect

    http://www.alienresistance.org/dtelect.h...

    RESISTANCE is FERTILE

    http://www.alienresistance.org/christian...

    do you think he will flop on the floor of the white house babbling in tongues with Calypso Louie in the Lincoln bedroom

  24. Yup it's true, God wants us to kill each other in war.  

  25. PALIN is troubling. Period.

    Religious extremists do not belong in government; look to Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and that should be quite clear.

    On the flip side, we could save a whole lot of government money on interpreters, what with her whole 'speaking in tongues' gig.

  26. Wow, that's even worse than  her saying that building a $30 billion dollar oil pipeline through alaska is god's will.

    Look- I'm all for freedom of religion.  But I hope that at least some of you Christians out there see the problem with this kind of talk.  That is, unless you believe that these particular politicians are prophets and speak for your almighty.

  27. All I know is Palin is freaking hot.

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