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Which martial arts are good for mma training and street self defense?

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are these styles good for mma and street fight?

kyokushin,muay thai,tkd,judo and bjj

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  1. Judo is a sport and little real value in a fight, too many throws which in a fight are pointless.

    Jujitsu is probably the best all round street fighting type as it covers bits from all styles and is about getting down and dirty. Gum scrapes and eye gouges etc. (very very painful)

    TKD (thai kwon do?) Muay thai are similar styles? Good in a straight fight, but fitness needs to be extreme to last any real time on the street.

    I am not familiar with kyokushin however.

    I do various forms of kung fu now but have done lots in the past and it is useful, but I wouldn't take on more than one or two at once.


  2. Contrary to the fellow above me Judo is one of the BEST arts for self defense on the street. The ability to throw someone onto their head on the concrete while still remaining upright and mobile yourself is incredibly valuable. Judo also has much of the same Ground game as BJJ, though not as emphasised and so will help you learn to escape if you do get tackled or something like that. Combine Judo with Muy Thai or Kyokushin, two very solid striking arts and you have a good mix that covers the Striking range, the clinching range, and the grappling range.

    If you don't have Judo you'll want Muy Thai as your striking art for the Clinch component. Most standup arts don't do much in the clinch which is a very important range as it is generally your skill in the clinch that determines who controls the range of the fight. A grappler with a really good clinch will tie up with a good striker and force the fight to the ground. A striker with a really good clinch can control a grappler and keep the fight standing.

    BJJ has the strongest ground component of the arts you listed, but pretty much no takedowns. Muy Thai is the strongest standup style and complements BJJ very well.

  3. They have specific MMA training programs, I have no idea what the first one you put is, but Muay Thai and BJJ would be a great foundation, stand up skills and ground skills, the ability to strike and submit someone makes you more versatile and a well round fighter.

  4. Yes a combination of any of these would be good for MMA.

    Please let me tell you self defense and a street fight are two different things though. A street fight, where basicly there is an insult and two guys square of is all about protecting ego's. Self defense, where you are actually attacked and given no choice but to fight, is all about survival. No ego, no cheering morons egging you on.

    Too many people on here do not know the difference

  5. Kyokushin is a hard sport style of karate.  It is a full-contact style that features hard kicking, punching and training.  It is geared towards sport, not toward street.  There are Kyokshin fighters who have made the transition to MMA and done very well.  George St. Pierre is one of them.  But is also an amazing grappler and wrestler.

    Muay Thai again is a combat sport art that uses punches, knees, elbows, and kicks to defeat opponents.  One key component of Muay Thai is the fact that opponents can clinch to deliver blows.  This combined with the use of elbows and knees makes it a fairly effective martial art.  You need to be most concerned with being taken down.  Most MMA athletes cross train in Muay Thai to work their clinch and devastating strikes.

    In all honest Tae Kwon Do is c**p.  People can say whatever they want about it, but it is NOT an effective martial art for street and ring combat.

    Judo is another sport martial art that has its roots in traditional Japanese JuJutsu (martial art of the samurai).  It is geared towards sport, but has combat applications.  The pure ability to take someone down or throw them in any scenario is a big advantage.  MMA Fighters like Karo Parysian are good examples of this.  There is no striking in Judo.  If you want to do MMA you would need to enhance your striking.  If you need it for street defense, you would need to learn how to close the distance and work from there.

    BJJ is basically the father of MMA.  Its effective ground techniques defeated all newcomers to the grappling game.  It is a necessity if you want to fight in the ring.

    In the street.... it depends.  Most BJJ people will tell you that 90% of all street fights go to the ground.  This is fairly accurate.  My problem with this statement is that when we train BJJ we train to be on the ground.  If the fight goes to the ground, it really shouldn't stay there.  You need to finish your opponent quickly.  The biggest fear is that your opponent has a buddy.  Then the best BJJ techniques get thrown out of the window.

    So for takedowns, I would recommend judo or plain old high school wrestling, and if you are good enough college wrestling.  This would give you an amazing advantage in the ring, along with in the street.  Judo would also be a good compliment.  Typically wrestlers have done better then Judo players in MMA, but this maybe because more people wrestle compared to who practice Judo.

    If you are looking for MMA, I would first look at a BJJ school.  Typically they have good connections to MMA.

    If you are looking for a self-defense school, look for a reality based self defense school or a hardcore jujitsu school.

    Matt

    http://www.martialfighter.com

    http://www.fightauthority.com

  6. I think there are 2 Taekuando and Faranmusul

  7. Ya, they are. I am training judo for 3 years.

  8. are you trying to train MMA or are you just trying to get a good background??

    if you want to learn mixed martial arts don't train many arts,   go to a mixed martial arts gym.

    that being said  the styles i find most applicaple  (my own personal opinion not fact)   wrestling ,  **juijitsue/ grappling**,

    muay thai,   western boxing ,  dirty boxing,  judo is nice too especially if you want to understand some of your opponents

    but my advice  *** go to mma gym***

    mma is probably the best self defence ,   nothing else realy compares to it.  anyone that disagrees with that should step into an mma gym for a month before they start whining

  9. Jeet Kune Do is a Great Art i've train in that art for 4 years, to me its one of the best

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