Which tractor is better mf 1135 or allis charmers 7030 ?

Question

Which tractor is better mf 1135 or allis charmers 7030 ?

Answer 1

Instead of those two, I'd go for a John Deere 4420, it'd cost you about the same.

The transmission is just excellent on this tractor.

Answer 2

They both have around the same horse power (130-140hp).  They were produced in about the same years (1973-1974).

Both priced in about the same range and capable of doing about the same amount of work. I would guess the better of the two would be a personal choice and maybe the experience you've had with one or the other.  One person will likely tell you the MF 1135 is the best tractor and another will say the Allis 7030 is better.  Myself I would say the John Deere is a better tractor than either, but that is just my preference.

Answer 3

ac 7030

Answer 4

Do not use any tractor like those.  Farm this way:  

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These are based on the internet, US & international agriculture magazines, experiences teaching agriculture in many countries, research data and farmer experiences in those countries and a demonstration garden.  They are ecologically sustainable, environmentally responsible, socially just and economically viable.  There is unlimited, documented proof.  There are 90,000,000 no-till hectares worldwide.

Fukaoka Farm, Japan, has been no-till [rice, small grains, vegetables] for 70 years.  At the time of my visits, an Indian farmer has been no-till [vegetables] for 5 years, a Malawi farmer has been no-till [vegetables] on permanent beds for 25 years and a Honduras farmer has been no-till [vegetables & fruit] on permanent beds on the contour (73° slope] for 8 years.  Ruth Stout [USA] had a no-till garden for 30 years and 7,000 people visited her garden.  

No technique yet devised by man has been anywhere near as effective at halting soil erosion and making food production truly sustainable as 0-tillage (Baker)



1. Restore the soil to its natural health.  Contamination:  inorganic pesticides, insecticides & fertilizers

2. Maintain the healthy soil:  Healthy soil produces healthy crops with highest yields and prevents most disease, pest, weed and erosion problems.

3. Increase the soil’s organic matter every year.

4. Little or no external inputs [It is not necessary to buy anything, from anybody.  

5. Leave crop residue on top of soil. No burning.  You are burning up fertilizer.  Do not plow it into the soil.

6. Plant green manure/cover crops to increase the soil organic matter.  Seeds are available in every country.  

7. Plant the new crop in the crop residue by opening up a row or a place for the seed.

8. Plant every field every year [no fallow land]

9. 0-tillage: no plowing, no digging, no cultivating.  No hard physical labor required so children and the elderly can farm easily.  After two or three years the yields can double while reducing the labor by half as compared to traditional farming.  One farmer can farm ten acres alone using hand tools only [Honduras]

10. Permanent beds.  They were used 2000 BC in Guatemala, Mexico and many other countries.  15-25% of the land is in paths and that saves 15-25% of the seed, water and labor but yields will be higher.  Mark off the land in beds.  1½-2 meters wide and as long as the field or as you prefer.  Leave ½ meter between the beds.

11. Permanent paths  [walking] Paths can be, more or less, ½ meter wide between beds.  

12. Hand tools: machete, weed cutter, seeding hoe.  Local blacksmith should make them.

13. Soil always covered.  Never leave the soil bare.  

14. No compost making.  Use the organic matter for mulch.  If there is an excess, pile it up and use later.

15. Bucket drip irrigation should be used to produce food during the dry season and in areas of low rainfall:  Imported bucket drip kits are US$15.  A bucket drip line can be made locally from poly tubing [US$3, Nicaragua]. One will irrigate a row of crops 33 meters long using only 20 liters of water per day. Water can be from a stream, pond or well.  A drip kit returns $20 per month to the farmer [FAO study].

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When Soil is Plowed

Dr. Elaine Ingham, describes an undisturbed grassland—where a wide diversity of plants grow, their roots mingling with a wide diversity of soil organisms—and how it changes when it is plowed.

A typical teaspoon of native grassland soil contains between 600 million and 800 million individual bacteria that are members of perhaps 10,000 species.  Several miles of fungi are in that teaspoon of soil, as well as 10,000 individual protozoa.  There are 20 to 30 beneficial nematodes from as many as 100 species. Root-feeding nematodes are quite scarce in truly healthy soils.  They are present, but in numbers so low that it is rare to find them.

After only one plowing, a few species of bacteria and fungi disappear because the food they need is no longer put back in the system.  But for the most part, all the suppressive organisms, all the nutrient cyclers, all the decomposers, all the soil organisms that rebuild good soil structure are still present and trying to do their jobs.

But tillage continues to deplete soil organic matter and kill fungi. The larger predators are crushed, their homes destroyed.  The bacteria go through a bloom and blow off huge amounts of that savings-account organic matter.  With continued tillage, the "policemen" (organisms) that compete with and inhibit disease are lost.  The "architects" that build soil aggregates are lost.  So are the "engineers"—the larger organisms that design and form the larger pores in soil.  The predators that keep bacteria, fungi, and root-feeding organisms in check are lost.  Disease suppression declines, soil structure erodes, and water infiltration decreases because mineral crusts form.  Dr. Elaine Ingham, BioCycle, December 1998.  (From ATTRA News, July 06)

Answer 5

All things being equal, the AC would be better because parts are easier to come by.

Things are never equal, though, are they? If you have a great Massey dealer nearby, the Massey Ferguson is better. If you have a great AC dealer nearby, the Allis Chalmers is better.

I spent a lot of years sitting in the seats of a WC and a WD-45, which were an elegant and artful piece of engineering, so I tend to like orange tractors, but their tractors of the 1970s leave me cold. My grandfather owned a Massey Harris, and I always thought it uncomfortable and ugly, so I've a prejudice against that shade of red.

In the early 1970s, Oliver made some nice tractors. Their flat seats weren't quite as comfortable as the molded steel of a WC or a WD-45, but it was easy to see what you were doing, and so those who moved up from a 77 or 88 were generally happy. Moving up from a Johnny-Popper A or B to a 4020 was also fairly pleasant. John Deere's aggressive pricing and credit policies kept them dear to the hearts of many farmers, too.

What it comes down to in the end is, which tractor is in better condition?