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Which was a bigger con? Global cooling 30 years ago or warming today?

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see link to time magazines artical about an ice age and all the doom that will come

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html

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  1. Global warming causes global cooling. AKA The Ice Age....

    The ice caps melt-more water-more rain-more clouds-less sun-more cold air.  

    Its a cycle.


  2. both those stupid librals just want attention

  3. The funniest thing about all of this is I myself could go get a degree in a field such as Environmental science or Climate science and start saying things about the environment and use thirty year old information to confirm these theories.  And as long as I build a following eventually it will become true to the people even if I'm a liar.  I don't have to put out any real data or facts about it all I need is enough brainless idiots to follow me and I'll build a name for myself.  Hey I might even be able to win the Nobel Prize for my attempts to help the planet..    What a friggin joke.  Does any body else see what's going on here.  It does not matter what the con is their are always going to be left or right winged maniac humans pushing their agenda to create a name.  I can also put up many links that are completely against global warming trends.  WHAT FITS YOUR AGENDA??????

  4. "A difference which makes no difference IS no difference"-Mr. Spock

    These people are professional alarmists and we would be well served to ignore them completely.

  5. Ah yes, and it was not just Time that had articles on the next ice age coming.  The data and statistics are selected to prove the case.  Many of the "scientists" who are on the global warming bandwagon simply select information that they believe backs up there case.

    Its kind of like using stock market charts.  The overall trend is up, but you can select a multi-year uptrend or downtrend and project it out and say it will keep going that direction.  One analyxt will pick a segment of the chart and project the dow is going to 30,000 within 4 years and another will pick a different segment of the chart and say their projection is that the dow will collapse to 6,000 in the next 4 years.

    There are many meteorologists and climatologists that say that believe it or not weather goes in cycles, just like the stock market and someone can look at a portion of a cycle and tailor their projection to what they want to show and then show another chart of something else and try to correlate them.

    Interestingly enough there are people who try to correlate all kinds of things to stock market charts.  Some of them would seem to make sense but they may be either a cause or an effect of the stock market.  Some of the things they correlate are silly, such as who won the superbowl, etc.

    Just because somebody like Al Gore or a "scientist" shows you two charts that look similar it does not mean that it has even one iota of significance.  Or that what they say is causing something is not really a result of that something.

  6. Both.  We should be smart enough today to know that no one can predict the future.

  7. the warming psychos are much worse. there was never any alarm about cooling because we were confident that if it got to be a problem we would find a way to deal with it, remember we had just been to the moon 6 times.

    people had a much more sound science education back then before the hippies & liberals turned the school system into a feel good, touchy feelie, grades dont matter political indoctrination system.

    now people are willing to destroy the economy because some left loaded computer model predicts that they are burning up when actually they are freezin their buns off in april & they are too dumb to look at a calender or thermometer.

    they just believe & repeat whatever their told.

    like sheep waiting for for the kind friendly wolf to show up.

  8. Finally - someone who remembers global cooling!!!!!!!

  9. Are you living in the past or the present?

    My world is in the here in now. I worry about what scientists are showing me that is happening today.  I worry about what is projected to happen, because if it does, the consequences are both great and terrible.

    I could show you the latest TIME link.  It's not bad, actually, but I can do better.  I can provide you with links galore, and if you read them, if you can understand what they're saying,  you will be singing a different tune by next week.

  10. Well obviously the current global warming con is bigger. It has a huge push from a money hungry media and millions of followers are conned into believing it's far fetched results. The Ice Age theory was barely a blip on the radar back in the 70s it was only in a few articles and basically noticed by hardly anyone. It has only been resurrected in modern times by people using revisionist history to push their agenda.  The only con with the Ice Age theory are the people that bring it up now and say it was a huge scare. these people are as guilty as the people that say global warming will destroy our world.

  11. GW is the bigger con.  Cooling, is the greater threat to humand and nature in general.

  12. The people who predicted cooling 30 years ago had NOTHING in common with today's global warming scientists.

    They were just a few guys with an idea, and very little to back it up, who got WAY more attention in the media than they deserved.

    Today's global warming scientists have a mountain of data that proves it, and the backing of EVERY major scientific organization.

    What the global cooling guys were like is today's so-called "skeptics".  A few guys, with little data.  More here:

    http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=9...

  13. Bryson and Oilman, the guys that time article quotes, are the same guys who don't believe in global warming today. what's the thinking; they were wrong then, so you'll go with them today because they're due to get it right sooner or later?

  14. Are we to believe that CO2 changes properties every 30 years?  Great con, but the same language is being used today as it did when we'd get 15 inches of snow over night and "This is it, folks, a new ice age is coming."  Didn't happen.

    "CFC's are causing holes in the ozone."  Wrong again.  Too much hype.  It gets to a point where it's all white noise with all the other doom and gloom vying for our attention.

  15. That's easy - global cooling of the 1970s, because it was a myth perpetrated by the mass media, which ignored the majority of scientists, who were predicting warming.  See Myth #1 here:

    http://greenhome.huddler.com/wiki/global...

    This time the media is listening to the scientists.  Global warming is not a con.  See Myth #6 at the link above.

  16. LOL!!!! Thanks for bringing up an oldy but a goody OP.

    Chicken little people, chicken little.  The sky is always falling on the left hand side of the isle.

  17. And this is a good reason people should get their science information from the scientific literature rather than the popular press (which loves sensationalistic articles) or blogs.  If they did, they'd realize that there was no significant global cooling concern 30 years ago and in actuality the danger of global warming was already a concern of a growing number of climate scientists by then.

  18. In the 60's and 70's there were real pollution problems.  The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) was created in 1970 to help deal with them.

    The Global Cooling alarmists were speculating wildly what might happen if air pollution kept getting worse.

    The Global Warming alarmists have literally copied the wild speculation and changed a few words.

    Since the last few years have been cooler, not hotter, the same alarmists are changing a few words (Climate Change) in preparation for pulling Global Cooling claims out again.

  19. Wow, I don't know which will be worse....

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