Which would be a better gun to purchase and conceal and carry, a Springfield XDM or a FN FiveseveN?

Question

I know it's comparing apples to oranges and cost not considered.

Answer 1

Of the 2, the XD is the clear choice.   The XDM is currently only chambered in .40 S&W which is a proven defense round.  The 5.7x28 is not recommended as a defense round.  

The issues with using the XDM for CCW as well as other full size autos is the concealment part.  You need to chose a holster which is up to the job and choose clothing which will hide, not emphasize the fact that you are carrying.    

Answer 2

I don't think the XDm would be ideal for conceal carry as it is a huge gun.  Not to mention unloaded it weighs 32 oz's.  Put 16+1 rounds in it and that gun will weigh as much as my 7 year old son. Also the XDm has an extremely long grip which, once again, is a deterrent for most people looking to conceal a weapon.  I own the XDm, just not for conceal.  I pocket-carry a Smith & Wesson 642 air-weightt, hammerless .38+p revolver.  

As for the FN, don't waste your time with this weapon.  It's just not that attractive of a conceal weapon and it is dangerous being that over-penetration is a big concern with this weapon.

Look into the XD sub-compact .40 or maybe something in the glock family.  

Answer 3

The FiveseveN would by no means be a carry gun, any round that defeats armor would leave a through and through wound therefore endangering all people and property around.  A handgun chambered in any of the popular chamberings (9mm, .38, .357, 10mm, .45) would be a better choice.

*EDIT* Upon more pondering, choosing the 57 for carry would be as ignorant as either a Ruger single six in .17HMR, or a S&W in either .460 or .500., as yes, they COULD do the job, but lets be real folks, thats not thier intended purpose.

Whether or not one would be carrying the armor defeating ammo is of little relevance, as this chambering is not intended for personal defense.

With all the other established rounds that are nearly identical in ballistics, and those that are barely larger that exceed these ballistics, this gun has no practical use and was unarguably originally made to defeat armor in a handgun sized platform.

Gunner, there are many calibers that will defeat armor, its just they werent specifically designed to do so!

KD8Z, where exactly is your answer to the question?

Answer 4

If you want the risk and liability of carrying a FN 5.7, then by all means do so. I hope you have EXCELLENT insurance coverage, the 5.7 round will pass completely through any human being, with enough energy to kill an innocent bystander.

As stated in the above answer, any of the standard commercial handgun calibers will be better suited.

Answer 5

Springfield XDM for all the reasons listed by previous posters.

Answer 6

The misinformation is strong in this thread. There is an FN round that will defeat soft body armor, It is due to bullett construction not some magical ability of the FN to defy the laws of physics. And that particular round is not commercially avialable in the US ,

Look at the BALLISTICS of a 5.7 and you will see it is almost identical to a .22 mag. Physics don't lie. That said , XD is still your answer, Would you want to rely on a .22 Mag for self defense? I know I would not.

(edit one) First you all need to start here......

http://www.pistolworld.com/bbs/viewtopic...

SS192 in NOT commercially available in the US. ( not that is ever lived up to the hype out of the handgun)

Second, Stealth, stop posting lies. 22 mag is stopped by 2a since you all seem to be exprert you know 2a is about the LOWEST armor rating available these days......

http://www.internationalbodyarmor.com/In...

Anyone else got any misconceptions they would like cleared up.

The Bovine scatology is so deep you need hip waders not to drown..... When does school start again?

Answer 7

Between the two I would pick the Springfield because you have a better chance of finding ammo for it. The FN five seven looks to be a handgun that you would use for backup for hunting or tactical missions where stopping power is needed. You also need to watch your backround alot more when shooting with the Fn.

Answer 8

I for see the Fiveseven round being outlawed in America or at least some states.  Especially the way the upcoming candidates are looking.  its possible.  

To gunner s a 22 mag will penetrate Level IIIA body armor.  and the hornady 5.7X28 ammo will also go through level IIIA armor.

The Original five seven is discontinues that one is double action only.  That what I thought you were talking about.  All the new Five sevens.  USG, IOM are single action with a safety.  NOTE, 5.7X28 ammo will go through Level IIIA soft body armor.  It dos not have to be "special ammo".   I change my answer.  yes, ammo will be a little expensive.  You wont find it at wal-mart.  but you can get some good deals online.   with the Five Seven you will have 20 rounds in one mag that will be at your disposal.  I would go with the five seven.

OK gunner s,  That test does show that 22 mag "Soft points" Traveling at 1180 FPS Will not Penitrate the lowest level of body armor.  True,  But they didnt bother to test any other ammo.  thats the slowest traveling ammunition for a 22 mag.  For example winchester supreme travels at 2120 Fps.  They didnt test that now did they.  RWS 40 grain with a full metal jacket 2020 fps.  Soft point 22 mag rounds will not penitrate.  But Nobody has a test with Full metal jackets.  Hmm?  I wonder why?  So on the Soft points yes I am wrong.  But on the FMJ's your wrong.  Sorry.  Test it your self.  Put the time money and effort into it like I have.  I wish I had a Video camera.  so I could show you.    Why are you wondering when school starts back.   I wouldnt know I graduated  awhile ago.  But it sounds like you should go back.  it will do you some good.